First off...congrats on a great season so far. Favor. Can you send over

[Reality Man]

nddecker1 when you see him and tell him to come over to the UM board. He knows what it's about. He was nice enough to give 'us' a comprehensive analysis of UM football and I think his prediction was going to be 5-7.

I just want to get his input on how his analysis didn't quite come to fruition.


Again...congrats on a great season. Great university and great program. Best wishes going forward.



Reality Man

 

[FightingIrish44]

Wow. Cool story. A likely Anti-Michigan guy predicted 5-7 and Michigan is going to be 9-3 or 10-2. Imagine that.

Looking at your schedule...Its not that hard to come to a 5-7 prediction pre-season. Good for you that it worked out for you.

 

[gipper04]

I am going to assume that they will be 9-3 and could lose a bowl game yet also.
But either way UM had a better season than I anticipated.

 

[TurnoverMachine]

When you play a patsy big ten schedule 10 wins isn't that tough.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

You go to someone else's board and talk shit and disappear they can come look for you on the milk carton. All in good fun.

 

[Grabaka]

While we're at it can we send plumpqueef aka sandinmuff back? Thanks and toodles.

 

[coolirish9]

actually it really stinks that Michigan might win 10 games this year. i'm always gonna have hate for there football program even though there not one of the top rivals for our irish on the field no more

 

[Reality Man]

Looking forward to the Stanford vs. Notre Dame game. I root against ND but have the utmost respect for your great university.

In regards to nddecker1...you would have had to be there. He really is sharp and he gave an unbelievable detailed analysis of why he was predicting a sub-par UM season. I just want to hear some explanation on why things didn't go the opposite way.

Just want him to give me his analysis.


RM

 

[FightingIrish44]

Looking forward to the Stanford vs. Notre Dame game. I root against ND but have the utmost respect for your great university.

In regards to nddecker1...you would have had to be there. He really is sharp and he gave an unbelievable detailed analysis of why he was predicting a sub-par UM season. I just want to hear some explanation on why things didn't go the opposite way.

Just want him to give me his analysis.


RM

If you were legitimately trying to get his thoughts, and not gloating, then my apologies for the rude response. I thought it was one of those cases where you wanted to rub it in to a poster who predicted wrong. My bad.

 

[Reality Man]

No problem. Here is one of his posts. I honestly..genuinely want his updated thoughts. Everyone knows UM has exceeded expectations but I like the guy. He has quality posts and it well thought out.

By the way...he was right in 2014 and he did tell us about that so I would like him to tell us about 2015. If you see him...tell him to come over to see us. He knows how to access the site .


Re: Let's look at this another way nddecker1. Assume a new program Reality Man,

That would depend on the quality of the QB, RB, and coach, as well as the quality of the rest of the team.

THe issue with the image that Michigan fans want to paint is

1.) QB talent at UM is absolutely pathetic, and it's mixed with a complete lack of experience. THis is the analysis being told to Michigan's own insiders/mods by Michigan's own "Greatest in the Entire History of Sports" coaching staff....so there is really no debating it

QB is an absolute disaster and Harbaugh isn't going to be able to change that in 2015

2.) RB is very far from impressive

Let's face it, anyone that watched Michigan last year saw that Green looks great against Appy State and a desimated Miami (OH) but he looked pathetic against ND, Utah, and Minnesota he was pathetic. His combined stats from all 3 games were: 33 carries, 90 yards, 2.9 YPC, 0 TD...if you bring that out to the "per game" basis, against teams with a plus, Green was good for:
11 caries
30 yards
2.9 YPC
0 TD
That's flat out pathetic...

Beyond that, the other "5* Savior" of the RB position was the #5 RB on USC as a frosh, and was the #2 frosh RB. The frosh RB who was keeping him on the bench hasn't exactly lit the world on fire either, stuck as a 2nd stringer and only putting up 600 yards and 4 TDs as a sophomore.Isaac himself has eclipsed 50+ yards and/or 10+ rushes exactly 1 time...a blowout win over Cal where he played mainly on mop up duty. Then add to that the fact that he's taken a year out of playing in games.
Isaac has some potential, but has shown very little production so far in CFB and has been put deep on the bench by the very coaches Michigan fans are now worshipping (Drevno)

Your best RB last year, against any kind of competent opponent, was Johnson...but he's now on ACL tear #2 and who knows if he'll ever play again, much less what he'll be like if he does

Honestly, your most productive, proven, and likely to start RBin 2015 is also your least talented...Smith
Smith is powerful and tough, but a major plodder who is really more of a hybrid fullback than an impressive RB. He'll get you a few tough yards whenever he can, but he just doesn't have the athleticism, speed, wiggle, or balance to really make a difference

Like I said, you RB group is okay, and has some potential, but is VERY FAR from special


3.) WR just lacks anything impressive at all

This is the kind of WR core you'd expect from a MAC level team, or a Big10 bottom feeder. No one here will scare a defense at all, cause them to change schemes, or back away from the LOS. Teams will happily stack the box and blitz the QB while challenging this group 1v1 all day...there is just no one here

I have to think that even the Michigan homers can admit that Michigan may well have the worst WR core in the Big10 and one of the worst of any P5 team


4.) TE is thin

Butt is a good player, but he's not a game changer. He's showed some promise at times, but he's an average blocker and an above average pass catcher, and that's about it. Behind him, there isn't much. Bunting has potential as a pass catcher, but is totally unproven. Hill is hurt. Williams is a blocking TE who absolutely sucks at blocking...

Overall, this is an average to below average Big10 TE unit



5.) THe OL veteran and showing signs of improvement, but has yet to even reach "average Big10 team" levels...much less dominate Big10 teams...and let's not even discuss dominating top level teams across the nation

Michigan is below average in run blocking, but they've been terrible in pass protection, especially in blitz pick. The OLs simply can't identify where the blitzes are coming from at all, and on the rare ocassion that they do, most of them look like the have weights strapped to their shoes as the try to move (especially Kalis and Glasgow)

No doubt experience plus better coaching with create improvement here...but Michigan fans are kidding themselves if they think this unit was "average" before and now looking to make the jump to "dominant, center the of the offese"

This unit flat out terrible to start 2014 and improved to "well below average" by the end of 2014
Improvement here would consititute, "average OL, doesn't get dominated by average teams"

I would say this improvement would really help MIchigan stop losing to bad teams, as it would let their superior talent at the skill positions take over...but...Michigan is probably in the bottom 3 of Big10 teams for offensive skill position talent






You'll have to let me know specifically where you disagree, because right now I can't see anything but a soft Big10 schedule keeping Michigan out of the Bottom5 of all Big10 offenses

50 nddecker1, Mar 9, 2015
Report

 

[Reality Man]

I stand corrected...he predicted 7-5. Told you he was a very thoughtful and provides a solid analysis. Here are some of my comments. Just send him over and would appreciate your help. Don't know where to find him.

Okay nddecker1.... Lets' go through this stuff.


1. I agree with you 100% on this qb issue. You are spot on. I can't assume that any of these qb's are going to be competent out of the gate. The qb position is a huge weakness. You are absolutely correct. It will be a major problem with decent qb play and no UM fan can make that assumption that the qb position will be decent.

Here is what I am trying to get across to you. UM is not going to be significantly worse replacing Gardner. You would be hard pressed to find a UM fan who would want Gardner back at qb. Do I need to paste the turnovers/statistics from the qb play last year?

Next, and most importantly...what happens if the Iowa qb comes to UM? Is that an upgrade from last year? So in a nutshell...if UM gets Ruddock...that in my opinion is an upgrade from Gardner? Agree or Disagree? I give you the fact that if Ruddock doesn't come to UM...then the qb position is far from settled and a major risk variable. You are correct.


2. I agree with you again on the rb situation. I don't think Green is anything to get overly excited about although I think you are minimizing the talent of Isaac and the improvement these more mature players will show under a running game staff who has proven to implement this type of football style. Will it be Alabama level? Of course not. OSU level...of course not but to dismiss that this staff will improve all aspects of this offense is being overly biased.


So basically if UM gets Ruddock and gets improvement from across the board on offense along with getting Peppers back...wouldn't you assume UM would be competent as a program?

 

[coolirish9]

why is a Michigan fan being obsessed on our board with what predictions some college football fan made about Michigan's season record for this year

 

[Reality Man]

Because I want to talk to him. Send him over. He came over (ND fan) and wanted to give the board a very good analysis of UM football for the 2015 season so I am asking you guys to help me and give us an update.

I didn't come to the ND board first. I just want him to follow up. That is a reasonable expectation...ND fan comes and makes prediction and then follows up.


RM

 

[mokpra37]

And you have posted all of 5 messages. It doesn't look like you have been on any boards until you saw ND struggle with BC because of turnovers. Poorly done.

 

[Yooper Irishfan]

I don't see how a 7-5 prediction was insulting at all. I know a lot of UM fans that figured they'd be 7-5/8-4 this year. This year was unexpected to pretty much everybody.

 

[Reality Man]

1. I have posted 1000's of times. System doesn't show it right. I have no interest in the BC game? I couldn't tell you who won that game but I did watch the end of the Stanford game. I do root against ND but respect them immensely. Very good season.

That being said...I came back to the ND board and was looking for nddecker1. If you see him...please tell him I am looking for him. It's after the season. ND had a better season than UM. Nothing to be embarrassed about. ND is a great school and will do well going forward. I just want him to tell me how UM won 10 games. Some of it luck.

Just trying to get him to do an exit interview. He was nice enough to give everyone a comprehensive analysis on why UM wouldn't be .500 (if I recall) based on all the problems with the roster (no rb's (probably right)...a back up qb, etc.

Just send him over if you see him post. Maybe I should find his handle and request if that is even possible.


Thanks for your help and once again...congrats on a fine season. ND is one heck of a school.



RM

 

[mokpra37]

1. I have posted 1000's of times. System doesn't show it right. I have no interest in the BC game? I couldn't tell you who won that game but I did watch the end of the Stanford game. I do root against ND but respect them immensely. Very good season.

That being said...I came back to the ND board and was looking for nddecker1. If you see him...please tell him I am looking for him. It's after the season. ND had a better season than UM. Nothing to be embarrassed about. ND is a great school and will do well going forward. I just want him to tell me how UM won 10 games. Some of it luck.

Just trying to get him to do an exit interview. He was nice enough to give everyone a comprehensive analysis on why UM wouldn't be .500 (if I recall) based on all the problems with the roster (no rb's (probably right)...a back up qb, etc.

Just send him over if you see him post. Maybe I should find his handle and request if that is even possible.


Thanks for your help and once again...congrats on a fine season. ND is one heck of a school.



RM

Get a life man! You "came looking" for a poster on a Rivals board?

 

[IrishBlooded]

@Reality Man

you are aware you can just tag people in your posts if you want their attention?

@TheDecker

 

[SALittleGiant513]

You came back to this thread 6 weeks later? Dude be like frozen... let it go

 

[TheDecker]

Can't go to the UM board. I was banned for predicting a 7-5 season

That being said, in impressed that gaebaugh was able to get 2 more wins than I expected

But this thread is stupid

This would be like me calling out the whole UM board for their constant claims that
"There is no way HARBAUGH loses his first game at Michigan!!"
or
"There is now way HARBAUGH loses to both our rivals!!"

Good work by Harbaugh, but it's not like you won your division, beat a rival, or even a team that's likely to finish in the final rankings

 

[romulator]

Reality Man, I have read TheDecker's original post that you have quoted here. If you hold this "analysis" in as high regard as you say you do, then I question your judgment equally as much. Just a few examples of wild misses, that anyone with knowledge of Harbaugh and/or UM could have seen a mile away:

1. QB is an absolute disaster and Harbaugh isn't going to be able to change that in 2015 - no explanation needed. Check Rudock's numbers.
2. WR just lacks anything impressive at all - see Jehu Chesson
3. TE is thin - hilarious. Butt, Hill, Bunting, Williams. As a group they led the country and individually Butt had more catches than anyone. He was targeted as a primary receiver 77 times in '15.
4. OL is below average in run blocking, but they've been terrible in pass protection - actually the OL was damn good in pass pro all year long
5. THe OL veteran and showing signs of improvement, but has yet to even reach "average Big10 team" levels...and let's not even discuss dominating top level teams across the nation - see Florida. Coach McElwain has a far different opinion. "It was a case of getting your rump kicked in," McElwain said. "That's what it was. Our energy was good. We came out and played inspired football. Just call it the way it is. They out-physicalled us, guys, no doubt about it. I mean, I hate to state the obvious all the time, but they did. They did a great job with their pad level and really took it to us on both sides of the ball." Btw that was one of the top rated defenses in the SEC and country.

Not only has the Harbaugh train left the station, but it is powering down the tracks on a collision course with the CFB playoff next season.

 

[NDSMC78]

Reality Man, I have read TheDecker's original post that you have quoted here. If you hold this "analysis" in as high regard as you say you do, then I question your judgment equally as much. Just a few examples of wild misses, that anyone with knowledge of Harbaugh and/or UM could have seen a mile away:

1. QB is an absolute disaster and Harbaugh isn't going to be able to change that in 2015 - no explanation needed. Check Rudock's numbers.
2. WR just lacks anything impressive at all - see Jehu Chesson
3. TE is thin - hilarious. Butt, Hill, Bunting, Williams. As a group they led the country and individually Butt had more catches than anyone. He was targeted as a primary receiver 77 times in '15.
4. OL is below average in run blocking, but they've been terrible in pass protection - actually the OL was damn good in pass pro all year long
5. THe OL veteran and showing signs of improvement, but has yet to even reach "average Big10 team" levels...and let's not even discuss dominating top level teams across the nation - see Florida. Coach McElwain has a far different opinion. "It was a case of getting your rump kicked in," McElwain said. "That's what it was. Our energy was good. We came out and played inspired football. Just call it the way it is. They out-physicalled us, guys, no doubt about it. I mean, I hate to state the obvious all the time, but they did. They did a great job with their pad level and really took it to us on both sides of the ball." Btw that was one of the top rated defenses in the SEC and country.

Not only has the Harbaugh train left the station, but it is powering down the tracks on a collision course with the CFB playoff next season.

This might be interesting if we were playing you guys next year. But we don't. So go make your grandiose predictions elsewhere.

 

[twalsh]

That being said...I came back to the ND board and was looking for nddecker1. If you see him...please tell him I am looking for him.

You do realize that these chat rooms are virtual, right? We are not really all in a room chatting with each other.