Fire Jack!

[michigaNDer#1]

Don't know why you're still calling for Kelly's head. If I have a stockboy stealing from me and we've known it for a while. I fire my manager that didn't do anything to stop the bleeding.

Jack is incompetent. Kelly should have been fired earlier in the season.

 

[Lips Manus]

Kelly should resign today

 

[rivals50]

Kelly should resign today

NEVER hire a finesse coach again... Let's go for time tested formula next time after two pass friendly coaches...

Big O' Line
good Running game
and a DC how can keep other teams under 25 points

 

[Lips Manus]

les miles fits that bill

 

[ozona24]

Yes get a coach with Balls!!! Fire Kelly and Jack!!!

 

[rivals50]

les miles fits that bill

He is too old
need someone in their mid 40s

 

[Nocalirish]

Jack is the idiot that gave Kelly a 6 year extension. Both idiots should be terminated to save the program.

 

[BGI-CANADA]

Jack is incompetent. Kelly should have been fired earlier in the season.

Have been suggesting this for awhile - although some media people (TOS) deny it - I believe JS has a man-crush on Kelly (just my opinion......I may be wrong).

 

[michigaNDer#1]

Have been suggesting this for awhile - although some media peole (TOS) deny it - I believe JS has a man-crush on Kelly (just my opinion......I may be wrong).

Seems like this whole staff has J. Edgar Hoover Syndrome.

 

[perseverare]

not that there is anything wrong with that

 

[captstabbin]

If we bring either back next year......we become a true dinosaur......a relic of the past to be reconstructed in some museum in the future......because ND Football will be ofically DEAD.

 

[michigaNDer#1]

not that there is anything wrong with that

Unless you are a Catholic University.....um.....never mind. Didn't think that through.

 

[perseverare]

yea....

 

[perseverare]

it's over

 

[Legendsteve]

Do not be stupid. Jack is nothing more than a water carrier. He makes ZERO decisions. He is nothing more than a company man. Wake up.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Greg Schiano as head coach, Mike Sanford as his lone OC and Mike Elko as the DC... Keep Autry Denson and Todd Lyght around because I think they're quality position coaches and grinders in recruiting... The rest can go and need to be replaced by young energy.

Head Coach: Greg Schiano
OC / QB: Mike Sanford
RB: Autry Denson
WR: ?
TE: ?
OL: ?
DC / LB: Mike Elco
DL:
DB: Todd Lyght

Keep the young guys that recruit well and whose postion groups have shown results. It's time for the rest to move on.

That is a realistic and affordable foundation for a staff at ND, relative to what they pay in South Bend, especially considering what it will cost to make Kelly go away.

Schiano is a good coach and very tough minded. Sanford wants to run the ball. That's what he did at Boise. He's being overruled by Kelly and Denbrock. Elco is a really good value DC, with ACC ties (Wake's current DC), and he wouldn't cost a fortune. His 3-4 defense is ideal for Notre Dame.

I think you could get Schiano for 4'ish million per year. 2 from the University and the rest from the partners...

ND has the talent to win now if they are put in better positions and the culture of the program gets shaken up by a hardass like Schiano... They lose these tight games because they are as mentally soft as babyshit. Schiano would breed some damn toughness and swagger into these kids to compliment their talent.

If not Schiano, give me Dan Mullen. He can't do anymore as Miss State with bottom feeder SEC talent. He's a good coach but his kids are overmatched. Curious to see what he'd do with a talent upgrade and access to higher end recruits.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Greg Schiano as head coach, Mike Sanford as his lone OC and Mike Elko as the DC... Keep Autry Denson and Todd Lyght around because I think they're quality position coaches and grinders in recruiting... The rest can go and need to be replaced by young energy.

Head Coach: Greg Schiano
OC / QB: Mike Sanford
RB: Autry Denson
WR: ?
TE: ?
OL: ?
DC / LB: Mike Elco
DL:
DB: Todd Lyght

Keep the young guys that recruit well and whose postion groups have shown results. It's time for the rest to move on.

That is a realistic and affordable foundation for a staff at ND, relative to what they pay in South Bend, especially considering what it will cost to make Kelly go away.

Schiano is a good coach and very tough minded. Sanford wants to run the ball. That's what he did at Boise. He's being overruled by Kelly and Denbrock. Elco is a really good value DC, with ACC ties (Wake's current DC), and he wouldn't cost a fortune. His 3-4 defense is ideal for Notre Dame.

I think you could get Schiano for 4'ish million per year. 2 from the University and the rest from the partners...

ND has the talent to win now if they are put in better positions and the culture of the program gets shaken up by a hardass like Schiano... They lose these tight games because they are as mentally soft as babyshit. Schiano would breed some damn toughness and swagger into these kids to compliment their talent.

If not Schiano, give me Dan Mullen. He can't do anymore as Miss State with bottom feeder SEC talent. He's a good coach but his kids are overmatched. Curious to see what he'd do with a talent upgrade and access to higher end recruits.

Totally agree, posted this earlier as well. Do it now!

 

[Notre Dame du Lac]

Bump

 

[Airzee23]

ND doesn’t play a big time brand of football. Decent program but nothing special. I would’ve done the same thing Tommy did. If ND alums want to win again there needs to be a new AD- soon.

 

[ticat]

ND doesn’t play a big time brand of football. Decent program but nothing special. I would’ve done the same thing Tommy did. If ND alums want to win again there needs to be a new AD- soon.

Then they don't want to win...at least not doing what you want them to do....

 

[NDinNJ]

Then they don't want to win...at least not doing what you want them to do....

It's a difficult balancing act. On the one hand you have academics, how far do you sacrifice academics for a championship level football program. In the other hand you are a big time football program with a rich history of championships, legendary players and coaches, with fans starving for a championship. How far do you go to get to that level. Do you begin to sacrifice academics and ethics, start paying to bring elite players to ND?

 

[Patrirish]

ND doesn’t play a big time brand of football. Decent program but nothing special. I would’ve done the same thing Tommy did. If ND alums want to win again there needs to be a new AD- soon.

If Notre Dame doesn’t play big time football, how did ND play for the National Chsmpionship several times in the last ten (10) years ?

You’re a total moron who doesn’t have a clue when it comes to Notre Dame, Jack Swarbrick and all things ND.

You were probably rejected for admission and have an ongoing axe to grind With ND

Go to another forum, one that recruits and tolerates morons like you !

 

[d1042]

ah! the good old days!

 

[ticat]

It's a difficult balancing act. On the one hand you have academics, how far do you sacrifice academics for a championship level football program. In the other hand you are a big time football program with a rich history of championships, legendary players and coaches, with fans starving for a championship. How far do you go to get to that level. Do you begin to sacrifice academics and ethics, start paying to bring elite players to ND?

To answer the last question: No....

 

[chaseball]

To answer the last question: No....

The premise of that question is a false one. There's this propaganda going around that the only reason Notre Dame doesn't compete is because of its academic restrictions/admissions/etc. Super convenient excuse by the way

Nobody really wants to get to the crux of the matter and talk about the idea that Notre Dame doesn't compete because of incompetence

 

[NDSMC78]

The premise of that question is a false one. There's this propaganda going around that the only reason Notre Dame doesn't compete is because of its academic restrictions/admissions/etc. Super convenient excuse by the way

Nobody really wants to get to the crux of the matter and talk about the idea that Notre Dame doesn't compete because of incompetence

Right, if chaseball were named AD, ND would start winning championships.

 

[chaseball]

Right, if chaseball were named AD, ND would start winning championships.

call it youthful exuberance call it a new age of looking at the game call it whatever you want but I sincerely believe that if Notre Dame wasn't so closed off to different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation that they'd be much further along than they are now

 

[Patrirish]

The premise of that question is a false one. There's this propaganda going around that the only reason Notre Dame doesn't compete is because of its academic restrictions/admissions/etc. Super convenient excuse by the way

Nobody really wants to get to the crux of the matter and talk about the idea that Notre Dame doesn't compete because of incompetence

How do you account for the fact that Notre Dame played in several National Championship playoffs in the last 10 years ?

Playing in and for several National Championships in the last ten years contradicts your claim that Notre Dame can’t compete !

 

[Patrirish]

call it youthful exuberance call it a new age of looking at the game call it whatever you want but I sincerely believe that if Notre Dame wasn't so closed off to different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation that they'd be much further along than they are now

What ideas, what perspectives and what general innovation ?

Please elaborate !

 

[ticat]

call it youthful exuberance call it a new age of looking at the game call it whatever you want but I sincerely believe that if Notre Dame wasn't so closed off to different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation that they'd be much further along than they are now

Fair enough....as long as all those "ideas, perspectives and innovations" maintained the predominance of the academic over the athletic, and preserved the ethical standards of the university, I'm (and I'm sure administration) are all ears...

 

[NDSMC78]

call it youthful exuberance call it a new age of looking at the game call it whatever you want but I sincerely believe that if Notre Dame wasn't so closed off to different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation that they'd be much further along than they are now

"different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation..."

Meaningless. You are saying nothing.

 

[sjb75]

"different ideas, outside perspectives, and general innovation..."

Meaningless. You are saying nothing.

I am surprised you respond to that clown.

 

[NDinNJ]

How do you account for the fact that Notre Dame played in several National Championship playoffs in the last 10 years ?

Playing in and for several National Championships in the last ten years contradicts your claim that Notre Dame can’t compete !

The issue is the results of those games. They weren't even close. I don't believe it was a lack of talent, I believe it was coaching and preparation going into those games.

 

[Patrirish]

The issue is the results of those games. They weren't even close. I don't believe it was a lack of talent, I believe it was coaching and preparation going into those games.

You can’t diminish the achievement of making it to the playoffs for the National Championship

And, Ohio State lost by a bigger margin.

I agree that coaching and the focus of the coach in preparation for the 2012 game was sorely lacking.

Flirting with the Eagles job permanently soured me !

 

[NDinNJ]

You can’t diminish the achievement of making it to the playoffs for the National Championship

And, Ohio State lost by a bigger margin.

I agree that coaching and the focus of the coach in preparation for the 2012 game was sorely lacking.

Flirting with the Eagles job permanently soured me !

Ohio State almost beat Georgia this year. It was a close game. I realize there are going to be blowouts, it happens, but every single time! I'd like to see ND make it to a major bowl game or playoff and for once be competitive.

 

[Patrirish]

Ohio State almost beat Georgia this year. It was a close game. I realize there are going to be blowouts, it happens, but every single time! I'd like to see ND make it to a major bowl game or playoff and for once be competitive.

I agree !

In 2012, Kelly’s third year, he was already looking to jump ship.

IMHO, neither he nor the team were properly prepared.

One can only hope that if ND makes it to the playoffs, that being adequately prepared won’t be a shortcoming.

 

[Airzee23]

Then they don't want to win...at least not doing what you want them to do....

What exactly do I want them to do? ND is a B team JV level program. It is what it is. It doesn’t bother me one bit. I simply stated Rees wants to coach at the highest level. Bama is elite and SEC atmospheres are second to none.

 

[Notre Dame du Lac]

Is there any information about whether we matched Alabama for Rees or not? If we matched them, then can’t blame Jack. If we didn’t, then yeah, I’d blame Jack.

 

[TDIrish27]

Look at the NFL Draft record of the Bama team in 2020-----5 # 1 picks with them all starting in the NFL .

We had a good group but nothing like that.

 

[d1042]

Is there any information about whether we matched Alabama for Rees or not? If we matched them, then can’t blame Jack. If we didn’t, then yeah, I’d blame Jack.

if Bama over pays does not mean it is prudent for ND to do so also!