Does committee look closely at games?

[basketlax41]

What I mean do they take more than the score of games into consideration. For example any chance they will look at NDs loss to Clemson and think, better team lost, dry field they beat them by a lot, etc.

I know the close score says it was a close game, so there's that. But if you actually watched the game you know it was really even closer than that.

I just don't know the amount they go into it beyond record and final score.

 

[deadirishpoet]

What I mean do they take more than the score of games into consideration. For example any chance they will look at NDs loss to Clemson and think, better team lost, dry field they beat them by a lot, etc.

I know the close score says it was a close game, so there's that. But if you actually watched the game you know it was really even closer than that.

I just don't know the amount they go into it beyond record and final score.

Great question with no short answer.

My concern is objectivity which hurt TCU last season.

 

[Patagonia]

What I mean do they take more than the score of games into consideration. For example any chance they will look at NDs loss to Clemson and think, better team lost, dry field they beat them by a lot, etc.

I know the close score says it was a close game, so there's that. But if you actually watched the game you know it was really even closer than that.

I just don't know the amount they go into it beyond record and final score.

If the committee watches that game closely, they might also think that one team was up 21-3 going into the fourth, and that a dry field would have better benefitted the team that won.

 

[FightingIrish44]

If the committee watches that game closely, they might also think that one team was up 21-3 going into the fourth, and that a dry field would have better benefitted the team that won.

Patagonia. What is the meaning of your name? Are you from Chile or Argentina?

 

[basketlax41]

I highly doubt that's the conclusion they would draw. Nd plays Clemson 10 times nd beats them 9 times IMHO.

 

[Patagonia]

I mean, I think the committee will deem it a good loss, and I am just providing a different perspective. Who knows what factors the members consider and the weight that is given to each. If Clemson suffers a loss and ND wins out, then it might become a factor. Until then, it's likely academic.

 

[basketlax41]

I mean, I think the committee will deem it a good loss, and I am just providing a different perspective. Who knows what factors the members consider and the weight that is given to each. If Clemson suffers a loss and ND wins out, then it might become a factor. Until then, it's likely academic.

Understood and agree.

 

[NDSMC78]

No one knows what the members of the committee do, or how they evaulate the teams. They answer to no one.

 

[Toby Smart]

I hope they look closely at the games. They might realize that 30-22 was not indicative on how actually ND dominated the then highly ranked GT team. Then, be careful what you ask for, because if the committee looks closely at Clemson they just might look closely at Virginia.

 

[basketlax41]

I hope they look closely at the games. They might realize that 30-22 was not indicative on how actually ND dominated the then highly ranked GT team. Then, be careful what you ask for, because if the committee looks closely at Clemson they just might look closely at Virginia.

I think UVA is already classified as a very bad win. Not sure looking closely at it reveals much more.

 

[Irish Grandeur]

I think UVA is already classified as a very bad win. Not sure looking closely at it reveals much more.

I wouldn't call UVA a bad win. The committee may (should) look at ND losing its starting QB in that game and still found a way to win an away game. Also, CU being DK's first road start may become a factor they look at as well. Like OSU last year, the Va Tech loss didn't hurt them too terribly with the committee since they lost their starting QB during that game.

 

[Pennick4]

All committee members watch games except Ty W. He gets updates at the 19th hole.

 

[TurnoverMachine]

The committee gave OSU and FSU a lot of credit last year for bad wins.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

I think they look at the other polls and then just wing it based on no set criteria.

 

[Epictitus]

OSU and FSU always benefit from playing weak schedules, but don't expect that to change. They each won a recent title and playing weak opponents were a major part of their success.

Unfortunately, SOS is not scrutinized as much as it should be as playing poor schedules seems to be increasing.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

I think the false is actually true. It seems more and more teams are scheduling big games in the non-conference to make sure their SOS is high.

Looking at just the two teams you isolated they are adding games against Oklahoma, ND, TCU, Boise St., Ole Miss and Alabama to their OCC's in the next few seasons. You wouldn't see that kind of scheduling in the BCS era because teams wanted to avoid the loss more then they wanted to boost the SOS.

 

[Patagonia]

I think the false is actually true. It seems more and more teams are scheduling big games in the non-conference to make sure their SOS is high.

Looking at just the two teams you isolated they are adding games against Oklahoma, ND, TCU, Boise St., Ole Miss and Alabama to their OCC's in the next few seasons. You wouldn't see that kind of scheduling in the BCS era because teams wanted to avoid the loss more then they wanted to boost the SOS.

I think this is right. Outside of the SEC and its incessant incestuous backslapping, it is becoming more necessary for conference teams to schedule difficult OOC opponents. ND has routinely scheduled attractive names, many bluebloods. ND's problem being an independent is the lack of a championship game...the same problem the Big 12 champ has each year.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

SEC is even scheduling harder games too.

 

[Patagonia]

I highly doubt that's the conclusion they would draw. Nd plays Clemson 10 times nd beats them 9 times IMHO.

Just to stir the pot, is this a widely held belief?

 

[SALittleGiant513]

By ND fans yes

 

[NyyorkerND]

If we win out let's talk scenarios. Until then take it one game at a time. No need worrying about things you can't control.

 

[Toby Smart]

The whole college football nation is talking about scenarios and things they can't control. That's why college football is the greatest thing since ladies Roller Derby. I have heard dozens of "what ifs". Some legit. Some preposterous. Regardless. It's a blast, especially since ND is part of the conversation. But, if ND has any play-off aspirations, their defense has to get much much better. Especially the run defense. Not play-off caliber at this point.