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David Shaw Resigns

Didn’t know or follow Stanford. Carried himself well. Had some success, not recent.

How long before he ends up in the land of recycled coaches, Bama.
 
Stanford as of now is not creating any NIL for it's players.... Neither alumni funded or private org. If they aren't playing that game, then it's no win situation for Stanford in d1
 
14-28 over the last 42 games will get you a forced resignation. He never evolved away from that Power Run, Mutiple TE, 22, 12, 13 personnel, throw jump balls to tall slow WR offense. It took Harbaugh almost getting fired and a pay cut, to scrap that 1980's offense. Saban scrapped that junk when he brought in Kiffin to re-tool the offense.

Saban never stopped rolling and now Michigan is really rolling. It takes fast twitch electric athletes on offense to win in the modern game. And electric fast twitch athletes don't want to play slugfest football for 60 minutes.
 
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We should get him as an analyst before Bama swoops in
Why would anyone do that? Just go watch the 1982 Redskins. His style of football is outdated, antiquated and has no appeal to the modern athlete, He would be less than useless as an analyst.
 
Stanford as of now is not creating any NIL for it's players.... Neither alumni funded or private org. If they aren't playing that game, then it's no win situation for Stanford in d1


You said it best.

Shaw is leaving because he faces a near impossible task given how college football is changing. He now faces even more obstacles in recruiting smart and good players, on top of already stiff entrance and matriculation requirements. I live in San Francisco and follow the Cardinal, my 2nd team after Notre Dame.

The program is at a crossroads. It will take an overhaul to become competitive again. It's not the Xs and Os as much as getting Tommy, Joe, and Jerome...who minimally have to be smart, meaning they will assess the ROI of NIL and other perks at other programs.

I work in hi-tech in Silicon Valley. The Stanford network and brand is strong. You'd be surprised how many ex-athletes leverage this...but so do many athletes who had high grades, who find solid opportunities in sales, marketing, operations, even product management where they don't have to be hands on.

Obviously Notre Dame faces the same. But at least Notre Dame has a compelling brand. Imagine that brand also embraced NIL to the nth degree?
 
I like David Shaw, I'll miss him. I guess he was for some reason utterly hated by deranged ND fans, with maximum fear and loathing, but I suppose it's time for a change there. It's not a lifetime job, he had a good run, and with or without much in the way of NIL, Stanford certainly has a niche they can maintain as arguably the most prestigious university in the world, and that will continue to sell itself to eligible prospects, enough for them to continue to be respectable, I would think....

If anything this is a bad thing for ND, because maybe some new coach will make Stanford good again. At least ND fans can enjoy the forced resignation aspect of it. You know, because it's humiliating on some level, rather than just being fired in the regular way....
 
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Why would anyone do that? Just go watch the 1982 Redskins. His style of football is outdated, antiquated and has no appeal to the modern athlete, He would be less than useless as an analyst.
Hes a great QB developer and is considered a great offensive mind. He would be a great addition as a football analyst to any staff
 
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Hes a great QB developer and is considered a great offensive mind. He would be a great addition as a football analyst to any staff
Shaw won't be unemployed long. And his winning record against Brian Kelly and Marcus Freeman I respect.

Supposedly Stanford is going to go to 8 figures annually to hire a new Head Coach. And they are going to ramp up NIL. It's a damn good job in my opinion.
 
Shaw won't be unemployed long. And his winning record against Brian Kelly and Marcus Freeman I respect.

Supposedly Stanford is going to go to 8 figures annually to hire a new Head Coach. And they are going to ramp up NIL. It's a damn good job in my opinion.
I'll believe that when I see it
 
You said it best.

Shaw is leaving because he faces a near impossible task given how college football is changing. He now faces even more obstacles in recruiting smart and good players, on top of already stiff entrance and matriculation requirements. I live in San Francisco and follow the Cardinal, my 2nd team after Notre Dame.

The program is at a crossroads. It will take an overhaul to become competitive again. It's not the Xs and Os as much as getting Tommy, Joe, and Jerome...who minimally have to be smart, meaning they will assess the ROI of NIL and other perks at other programs.

I work in hi-tech in Silicon Valley. The Stanford network and brand is strong. You'd be surprised how many ex-athletes leverage this...but so do many athletes who had high grades, who find solid opportunities in sales, marketing, operations, even product management where they don't have to be hands on.

Obviously Notre Dame faces the same. But at least Notre Dame has a compelling brand. Imagine that brand also embraced NIL to the nth degree?
Not to mention that like at Notre Dame, getting undergrad transfers admitted is very difficult there. You can't just bring in 20 transfers to rebuild your roster like some schools.
 
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Not to mention that like at Notre Dame, getting undergrad transfers admitted is very difficult there. You can't just bring in 20 transfers to rebuild your roster like some schools.
Stanford does not base football success on winning national titles. They never have.

But if Stanford is willing to pay 8 figures annually for a head coach, like they came close to with David Shaw who made 9.0 million per year, they will find a good head coach.

Again, the Stanford gig is a very good job if beating Alabama isn't a concern. And at Stanford, it shouldn't be a concern. You're Stanford.
 
14-28 over the last 42 games will get you a forced resignation. He never evolved away from that Power Run, Mutiple TE, 22, 12, 13 personnel, throw jump balls to tall slow WR offense. It took Harbaugh almost getting fired and a pay cut, to scrap that 1980's offense. Saban scrapped that junk when he brought in Kiffin to re-tool the offense.

Saban never stopped rolling and now Michigan is really rolling. It takes fast twitch electric athletes on offense to win in the modern game. And electric fast twitch athletes don't want to play slugfest football for 60 minutes.
So he ran the offense that many Notre Dame fans were screaming for Kelly to run, and it doesn't work.
 
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Do we need a TE? Lyons was 4 star.....we know he can get through Admissions.
 
Do we need a TE? Lyons was 4 star.....we know he can get through Admissions.
I'm more interested in seeing what Yurosek does. His pops was my roommate in college. Family is loaded. Owned Bunny Luv Carrots. Now called Yurosek farms. I'm tempted to call him but I don't think I'd get anything out of him.
 
Stanford does not base football success on winning national titles. They never have.

But if Stanford is willing to pay 8 figures annually for a head coach, like they came close to with David Shaw who made 9.0 million per year, they will find a good head coach.

Again, the Stanford gig is a very good job if beating Alabama isn't a concern. And at Stanford, it shouldn't be a concern. You're Stanford.
And we’re nd. What’s your point
 
So he ran the offense that many Notre Dame fans were screaming for Kelly to run, and it doesn't work.

He never got the team he needed in depth. Even with Luck, Love, and McCaffrey, some great OLmen, Stanford never had an elite team. Harbaugh and Shaw got them as far as possible under the best of times.

Times have changed yet again and Stanford isn't getting the players they need.
 
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I got a wind of this from the Soundoff Board.


On Saturday night, BYU delivered a final blow to a second consecutive 3-9 season for Shaw’s program. The struggles of Stanford football this season were highlighted by the muffed hold on a point after attempt that would have put the Cardinal in a spot to trail BYU by only one possession.

“This program is in a better position than it looks. The transfer portal will be very, very enticing to a lot of people. There are programs that are already illegally back door recruiting; have been doing it for months. I hope a lot of these guys stay,” said Shaw.

Come on, Shaw knows, as you don't need to deeply read between the lines here.

I don't believe Shaw was forced out.

He seems to accept it's tougher than ever in the new normal of college football. And just doesn't want to do it anymore.
 
14-28 over the last 42 games will get you a forced resignation. He never evolved away from that Power Run, Mutiple TE, 22, 12, 13 personnel, throw jump balls to tall slow WR offense. It took Harbaugh almost getting fired and a pay cut, to scrap that 1980's offense. Saban scrapped that junk when he brought in Kiffin to re-tool the offense.

Saban never stopped rolling and now Michigan is really rolling. It takes fast twitch electric athletes on offense to win in the modern game. And electric fast twitch athletes don't want to play slugfest football for 60 minutes.
You’re 100% right about teams winning at the highest level, i.e., conference cha lions hip game + two playoff games. but I don’t think Stanford has those aspirations and knows that it cannot attract many of those super fast twitch athletes anyway. With that in mind, I think Stanford deliberately took the path of playing this type of power football that does not rely on the super fast twitch athletes on offense at least to create and carve out some sort of identity with players that they can actually recruit on the office of line and tight ends and quarterbacks.
 
Why would anyone do that? Just go watch the 1982 Redskins. His style of football is outdated, antiquated and has no appeal to the modern athlete, He would be less than useless as an analyst.

Why would anyone do that? Just go watch the 1982 Redskins. His style of football is outdated, antiquated and has no appeal to the modern athlete, He would be less than useless as an analyst.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Your problem is trendy thinking.
I said it before and echo again you can run the spread and lose and oh well...try again next year.
You run power football and lose it's because you didn't run the spread and get dismissed. Complete and utter bullshit.

That 1982 Redskin team you reference and make fun of were power football through and through. They just did it better than the other teams.

Funny how Nebraska didn't get much love in 1994 when playing a prettier pass happy team. What happened? They only won 3 titles in 4 years and were a missed FG from winning 4 titles in 5 years.

Oh and how did they fare against the prettier pass happy teams in top games?
They are still scoring against the media darling pass happy gators right this second.

How did they do it? Well....they had the best material in key places to what they were doing. Beating teams by 30, 40 and 50 points running the ball screams exactly that.

Furthermore there are still 130 losers at the end of every year...( except UCF)...
Nearly all running the trendy spread and most of them having average seasons year after year. 4-8 is not uncommon to a lot of the 131 D1 teams whilst running the spread.

Touchdown is still worth 6 points on the ground or air.
First down is still awarded for gaining 10 yards in 4 tries no matter running or throwing.

Same as it ever was....
Winning today in CFB is the same as it ever was....
Same...as it eVUH wwwaaaassss
Sincerely,
Talking heads circa 1980

You need good coaching

You need great material;
to implement in critical positions with whatever scheme you'rer using

You need a little luck..
even if you check the above two boxes you need a little luck

Stanford is not getting the material it once was. The why can be argued all day long but sadly if they aren't participating in NIL horseshit that's not going to change anything no matter running some magical trendy bullshit offense like you claim.
 
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Hes a great QB developer and is considered a great offensive mind. He would be a great addition as a football analyst to any staff
He’s not leaving the Bay area anytime soon. His wife is a big wig in Silicon Valley. He’ll land at the PAC12 network for a couple of years.
 
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I got a wind of this from the Soundoff Board.




Come on, Shaw knows, as you don't need to deeply read between the lines here.

I don't believe Shaw was forced out.

He seems to accept it's tougher than ever in the new normal of college football. And just doesn't want to do it anymore.
He realizes it's tougher than ever for Stanford. But it's easier now for programs like USC, which can rebuild in one offseason through the portal, because they don't have the same academic standards for their athletes to deal with. Riley's rebuild at USC would've taken at least 2-3 years in the past. But you can't just bring in 20 transfers in one year at Stanford (or at ND, either).
 
He realizes it's tougher than ever for Stanford. But it's easier now for programs like USC, which can rebuild in one offseason through the portal, because they don't have the same academic standards for their athletes to deal with. Riley's rebuild at USC would've taken at least 2-3 years in the past. But you can't just bring in 20 transfers in one year at Stanford (or at ND, either).
USC Football has zero academic standards.
 
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