College Football Live Top 4

[ndhuntington]

Danny Kanell had

Clemson
Iowa
Alabama
Oklahoma

Paul Finebaum had
Alabama
Clemson
Oklahoma
Michigan State

These guys must really hate Notre Dame. Iowa has beat Northwestern wow.. And MSU lost to Nebraska who lost to Purdue. And lets not forget OU lost to Texas who we beat 38-3.. I know i'm a homer with Notre Dame but what the hell is wrong with these people.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Really wish TCU would have won. They would be another one loss team competing with ND, but it would be hard to see them climbing to #4 from #18. They just didn't carry the clout that OU had.

I think ND's wins are good enough to put them in over OU. I'm sorry, but they lost to Texas. A team that will probably finish 4-8 and got pounded my numerous teams, including Iowa State.

 

[Win5002]

Danny Kanell had

Clemson
Iowa
Alabama
Oklahoma

Paul Finebaum had
Alabama
Clemson
Oklahoma
Michigan State

These guys must really hate Notre Dame. Iowa has beat Northwestern wow.. And MSU lost to Nebraska who lost to Purdue. And lets not forget OU lost to Texas who we beat 38-3.. I know i'm a homer with Notre Dame but what the hell is wrong with these people.

So Iowa beating Northwestern 40-10 on the road is not impressive. Lets remember Northwestern has he same record as Stanford and beat Stanford, which is the team ND hopes to make their signature win and case for the playoffs.

I think your missing some relevant facts.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

They both had ND #5. Being wrong doesn't = Hating ND

 

[tkirish]

Truth be told, ND does not belong in the top 4. That could change. But after the last 2 weekends does anyone reall think they are one of the best 4 teams? They need to prove it this week against Stanford.

 

[mbd11]

Fortunately, the ESPN talking heads aren't on the Committee. I'll be surprised if we aren't in the top 4 tomorrow night.

 

[BGI User 1596]

The fact that ND isn't top 4 material was illustrated by the debacle on Saturday in Boston - that did not look like a top 4 team to anybody who realistically follows the games.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Truth be told, ND does not belong in the top 4. That could change. But after the lady 2 weekends does anyone reall think they are one of the best 4 teams? They need to prove it this week against Stanford.

Name one team that has dominated every game. ND beat Wake by three touchdowns and led by that many for basically the whole game.

BC put up a late touchdown in a game where ND had a whole bunch of turnovers. Almost every game will be close when you lose the turnover battle 5-1. Plus BC has a really good defense.

 

[perseverare]

4,5,6 and injuries notwithstanding, this team has had a very fine season! kudos: players and staff!

 

[Pennick4]

ND would beat Iowa by at least 3 touchdowns.

 

[BGI User 1596]

4,5,6 and injuries notwithstanding, this team has had a very fine season! kudos: players and staff!

Would have been nice to get to OT vs. Clemson - that 2 pt. play so early in the game might be overall reason this team isn't 12 - 0 and dancing for sure .... like he said ... he has a chart.

 

[tkirish]

Name one team that has dominated every game. ND beat Wake by three touchdowns and led by that many for basically the whole game.

BC put up a late touchdown in a game where ND had a whole bunch of turnovers. Almost every game will be close when you lose the turnover battle 5-1. Plus BC has a really good defense.

I understand but if ND had played a better team with a better offense they most likely would have lost. It is rare to have 5 turnovers and win. ND had their worst game against the best possible team they could play. No excuses. They were fortunate to win. As far as dominating every game, you are correct. However I just feel they are not deserving as of this moment of a top 4 spot. I base that on what I see on the field. They can change that this weekend with a win on the road against a very good team.

 

[NDSMC78]

ND would beat Iowa by at least 3 touchdowns.

Could happen, I suppose. But the only teams ND has beaten by 21 points or more are Texas, UMass and Wake Forest.

 

[Izo]

Well ,no matter, some Domers believe we are in if we beat Stanford. I'm not so sure .Yes ,everybody is pointing to a bad Texas team beating Oklahoma . ,But tomorrow(Tuesday) we will find out and if the committee puts Oklahoma in the 4th spot ,we are in trouble . Oklahoma should handle Oklahoma State (not that good) . As far as the Big 10 ! Hope Iowa loses to Nebraska . Michigan beats Ohio State ,

 

[Duo]

Only poll that counts is the one following the Conference Championships.

 

[TimTerrific]

NDs beats Stanford and they will be #3 in the playoff. Lose? Who cares where they finish.

 

[irish6789]

So Iowa beating Northwestern 40-10 on the road is not impressive. Lets remember Northwestern has he same record as Stanford and beat Stanford, which is the team ND hopes to make their signature win and case for the playoffs.

I think your missing some relevant facts.

OK, let's play the relevant facts game. Iowa has had a very good season, but you can thank Maryland and Rutgers in part. If they didn't join the Big 10, there is no way the schedule breaks in such a way that you avoid Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St and Penn St in the regular season. That's astonishing! Combine that with an OOC schedule of Illinois ST(FCS), North Texas, Iowa ST and Pitt, and you have some relevant facts to ponder regarding Iowa's Dream Season.

Oh wait, I forgot our common opponent, Pitt. Notre Dame traveled to Pitt and won 42-30. Thanks to a common theme of late game Irish generosity, Pitt was able to score two TDs in the last 5 minutes (including a 32 yd fumble return at 1:44) to avoid a 42-17 final. Iowa played Pitt at home and won 27-24 on a 57 yd game ending field goal, but you go ahead and keep boasting about the 40-10 win over Northwestern, who was coming off a 38-0 loss the week before, as if it's THE 'relevant" fact.

Heck, I'll forget Iowa all together and focus on Alabama. ND beat Temple, who blew out Memphis, who blew out Ole Miss, who beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa. We're #2! We're #2! We're #2!

 

[irish6789]

Just noticed Pitt's 3 losses are to ND, UNC, and Iowa (combined 31-2), Ouch! OT - Why is Florida in the top 10??

 

[AAF Nation]

Well ,no matter, some Domers believe we are in if we beat Stanford. I'm not so sure .Yes ,everybody is pointing to a bad Texas team beating Oklahoma . ,But tomorrow(Tuesday) we will find out and if the committee puts Oklahoma in the 4th spot ,we are in trouble . Oklahoma should handle Oklahoma State (not that good) . As far as the Big 10 ! Hope Iowa loses to Nebraska . Michigan beats Ohio State ,

http://espn.go.com/college-football/lines

Obviously i'm a bit biased . But a home game for Nebraska (the second half will be dark outside). Vs a team that we hate. Records mean nothing in games like these and teams with nothing to lose can be very dangerous. I realize no one has any respect for us this season which is expected. But all of our games have been close, maybe we are starting to figure it out. Plus we had a bye week and Riley was known for knocking off/ pestering some high ranked programs after bye weeks. Vegas has this game at -1.5 Iowa. Friday at 2:30. Dont miss it. Good luck to the Fighting Irish.

Riley's teams at Oregon State (since 2003) are 14-6 coming off a bye week. Wins include at #12 Oregon in 2007. #1 USC in 2008 (Thursday night game following bye). @ #19 UCLA in 2012.

The losses include:
6-point loss on the road to #7 USC in 2009
4-point loss on the road to #7 Oregon in 2009 (Thursday night game coming off a bye) - Oregon also had a bye
Loss on the road to #19 ASU in 2013
6-point loss in double overtime to Utah in 2014 (thursday night following bye) - Utah also had a bye
(Note: all rankings are at the time the game was played)
Far from a flawless record but history suggests Riley's teams tend to over-perform when given the extra time to prepare. Iowa, on the other hand, will have to come into Lincoln on short rest. Certainly not enough to guarantee victory, but a source of mild hope if nothing else.

This write up came from a poster on our board. Didnt want to take credit for this research, it was just a good write up for anyone who wants some optimism.

 

[ndhuntington]

I say Iowa goes down to Nebraska Oklahoma State upsets Oklahoma and Auburn gives Alabama a close game.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Yo

Would have been nice to get to OT vs. Clemson - that 2 pt. play so early in the game might be overall reason this team isn't 12 - 0 and dancing for sure .... like he said ... he has a chart.

You're a moron. It was the right call then, and still is. Just because it wasn't executed, doesn't make it the wrong call. But you keep harping on and continue to demonstrate how little you know

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Who gives a crap about what Kannel and feinbaum think. I mean really?

 

[mbd11]

The fact that ND isn't top 4 material was illustrated by the debacle on Saturday in Boston - that did not look like a top 4 team to anybody who realistically follows the games.

We had an off game, but at least we won. Other teams have off games. Michigan State barely beat Purdue and Rutgers. Florida barely beat Vanderbilt and FAU. So I don't think the committee will hold it against us too much.

 

[Nocalirish]

Danny Kanell had

Clemson
Iowa
Alabama
Oklahoma

Paul Finebaum had
Alabama
Clemson
Oklahoma
Michigan State

These guys must really hate Notre Dame. Iowa has beat Northwestern wow.. And MSU lost to Nebraska who lost to Purdue. And lets not forget OU lost to Texas who we beat 38-3.. I know i'm a homer with Notre Dame but what the hell is wrong with these people.

Two of the biggest idiots on ESECPN.

 

[IRISHJD98]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/lines

Obviously i'm a bit biased . But a home game for Nebraska (the second half will be dark outside). Vs a team that we hate. Records mean nothing in games like these and teams with nothing to lose can be very dangerous. I realize no one has any respect for us this season which is expected. But all of our games have been close, maybe we are starting to figure it out. Plus we had a bye week and Riley was known for knocking off/ pestering some high ranked programs after bye weeks. Vegas has this game at -1.5 Iowa. Friday at 2:30. Dont miss it. Good luck to the Fighting Irish.

Riley's teams at Oregon State (since 2003) are 14-6 coming off a bye week. Wins include at #12 Oregon in 2007. #1 USC in 2008 (Thursday night game following bye). @ #19 UCLA in 2012.

The losses include:
6-point loss on the road to #7 USC in 2009
4-point loss on the road to #7 Oregon in 2009 (Thursday night game coming off a bye) - Oregon also had a bye
Loss on the road to #19 ASU in 2013
6-point loss in double overtime to Utah in 2014 (thursday night following bye) - Utah also had a bye
(Note: all rankings are at the time the game was played)
Far from a flawless record but history suggests Riley's teams tend to over-perform when given the extra time to prepare. Iowa, on the other hand, will have to come into Lincoln on short rest. Certainly not enough to guarantee victory, but a source of mild hope if nothing else.

This write up came from a poster on our board. Didnt want to take credit for this research, it was just a good write up for anyone who wants some optimism.

I liked Nebraska's chances in this game and I didn't realize they had two weeks to prepare.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

Before Rutgers and Maryland joined the big ten purdue was in the east and moved over. They were iowa's protected rival so they would have had the same schedule.

I cannot believe you guys are crying about Iowa. They are an undefeated P5 team. Everyone said the same thing about ND a few years ago and it was the right thing to do to put then in the national championship. Every expert has them or Michigan state in the CFP depending who they assume will win the big ten championship. Michigan state would have beaten Oregon, Iowa, Ohio state, and Michigan vs NDs Stanford, temple, and navy for ranked opponents (using AP this week).

Assuming Clemson wins (if they do not it hurts ND's SOS and they probably still get in over ND), Oklahoma wins, and ND wins, it will come down to Oklahoma and ND for the final spot. Oklahoma would have beaten three ranked teams in a row. They are ranked ahead of ND in the computer models. big twelve got screwed last year. No way it happens again. Basically ND has a 25% chance of making it in my opinion (must beat Stanford and Oklahoma must lose).

 

[Nocalirish]

11-1 ND is in.

 

[NDSMC78]

11-1 ND is in.

Imbecile.

 

[NDSMC78]

Two of the biggest idiots on ESECPN.

Hilarious. These guys don't go along with your "11-1 and ND is in" narrative, so they are now two idiots. No kidding.

 

[echowaker]

Would have been nice to get to OT vs. Clemson - that 2 pt. play so early in the game might be overall reason this team isn't 12 - 0 and dancing for sure .... like he said ... he has a chart.

typical clown post. conveniently forgets 4 turnovers and numerous dropped balls.

 

[echowaker]

So Iowa beating Northwestern 40-10 on the road is not impressive. Lets remember Northwestern has he same record as Stanford and beat Stanford, which is the team ND hopes to make their signature win and case for the playoffs.

I think your missing some relevant facts.

on a neutral field nd would be a 5-7 point favorite over iowa. every other top 10 team would be favored over them also.

 

[Classic Irish]

on a neutral field nd would be a 5-7 point favorite over iowa. every other top 10 team would be favored over them also.

This.