Don't think he has played bad. Coaches shouldn't be chirping with players.No idea either but I'd side with the coach in this situation. We've heard Luke's name way to much this season for how bad he's played.
I mean it's fine if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt but I'll tell you what I've seen thus far: Cole Luke getting beat on trick play after trick play. Cole Luke trashing talking the Clemson fans while his team is down double digits. You can side with him but until I see some contrition, I'm not giving him the benefit of doubt.Don't think he has played bad. Coaches shouldn't be chirping with players.
Kizer, Fuller, Jaylon Smith >>> Russell, Luke.HRC08...agree, and the same applies to Russell. Been bugged all season that these guys are talking way too much and underperforming way to often. Important to have swagger in today's sports world for sure, but then back it up. Prefer ND guys that let their play speak for them.
Agree. Both Luke and Russell talk way too much for the way they're playing.HRC08...agree, and the same applies to Russell. Been bugged all season that these guys are talking way too much and underperforming way to often. Important to have swagger in today's sports world for sure, but then back it up. Prefer ND guys that let their play speak for them.
might be blown out of proportion. I saw what diehard saw. and if you see my earlier post I was actually attempting to be sarcastic. I don't think it was a big deal.Actually I just watched it again, and it looks like it starts with Rhule given a pat on the backside of CL, so I am assuming it was nothing
might be blown out of proportion. I saw what diehard saw. and if you see my earlier post I was actually attempting to be sarcastic. I don't think it was a big deal.Actually I just watched it again, and it looks like it starts with Rhule given a pat on the backside of CL, so I am assuming it was nothing
I was shocked Kizer didn't get tagged for 15 yards for taunting after both scores.
There is no reason for that kid grow up.
This.Trash talking is part of the game. As long as it doesn't go overboard there is no harm. You cant expect other teams to trash talk to us and not say anything in return. None of our players go overboard so its fine.
I think that Cole was asking " Do you have any Grey Poupon ? "Trash talking is not part of the game never has been,,,in my day coach would pull you out and make you sit on that Golden Helmet although in my day it was leather ........
It is usually the older people that hate the trash talking. I am 32 and trash talking as always been part of the game.
I'm 28 and have never liked trash talking. I think its okay if you're trying to get into a guy's head before a play (actually, I still think its dumb), but standing over a guy, or mocking him after you just beat him is cowardly. What if the guy blew you up two plays before but just walked to the huddle, now you're going to talk trash because you happened to win this time? Lame.
That sort of thing is what increases the likelihood of fights/dirty play. Guys want to one up each other or get back at each other. If a guy stands over me or says some BS during the game, and we win, I might make some "friendly" comments to him after the game ("nice game you f'ing bitch"). That's how fights get started.
Cole Luke looked like a complete loser jawing at the Clemson crowd after his pick, and so did Kizer if he was mocking Temple. I doubt Kizer would have liked it had he been injured or played poorly and the Temple players pulled some crap like that.
Cole Luke looked like a complete loser jawing at the Clemson crowd after his pick, and so did Kizer if he was mocking Temple. I doubt Kizer would have liked it had he been injured or played poorly and the Temple players pulled some crap like that.
I'm 28 and have never liked trash talking. I think its okay if you're trying to get into a guy's head before a play (actually, I still think its dumb), but standing over a guy, or mocking him after you just beat him is cowardly. What if the guy blew you up two plays before but just walked to the huddle, now you're going to talk trash because you happened to win this time? Lame.
That sort of thing is what increases the likelihood of fights/dirty play. Guys want to one up each other or get back at each other. If a guy stands over me or says some BS during the game, and we win, I might make some "friendly" comments to him after the game ("nice game you f'ing bitch"). That's how fights get started.
Cole Luke looked like a complete loser jawing at the Clemson crowd after his pick, and so did Kizer if he was mocking Temple. I doubt Kizer would have liked it had he been injured or played poorly and the Temple players pulled some crap like that.
Fair enough. I agree.Trash talking and taunting are two completely different things. I do not agree with taunting but there is nothing wrong with trash talking. My favorite basketball player was Gary Payton and he was one of the biggest trash talkers there was. He used it to get into peoples heads and it worked.