Can't Believe

[mmboys07]

Have made it a special mission to watch a lot of the Holtz era games. So many great players everywhere, so much discipline; special teams; lines; backs; wide outs; formations; defense. Almost a total lack of stupid mistakes or bad coaching calls. What an era. I am sorry, the ND teams of the past few years can't touch Lou's teams, not even 2012. Inside, outside, over the top; pound, pound, pound; just crushing.

 

[shabak]

It was a sad day when Holtz left. He is a once in a lifetime coach like Ara, Leahy and Rockne. Our recruiting coordinator also was the best. We had great D coaches in 88 and 89.

 

[echowaker]

It was a sad day when Holtz left. He is a once in a lifetime coach like Ara, Leahy and Rockne. Our recruiting coordinator also was the best. We had great D coaches in 88 and 89.

agree to a point. lou doesn't belong in the conversation with the other three. they were elite coaches. lou was a very good coach. after 93 his teams laid lots of eggs too. lou also had the ncaa at his doorstep everywhere he coached. he had a helluva run from 88 to 93. good times.

 

[Duo]

I get that Lou left of his own accord. The timing seems a mystery though. Thoughts, comments, conjectures.

 

[napy2121]

Have made it a special mission to watch a lot of the Holtz era games. So many great players everywhere, so much discipline; special teams; lines; backs; wide outs; formations; defense. Almost a total lack of stupid mistakes or bad coaching calls. What an era. I am sorry, the ND teams of the past few years can't touch Lou's teams, not even 2012. Inside, outside, over the top; pound, pound, pound; just crushing.

Times have changed and I don't mean this to be disrespectful to Lou's legacy as it stands on its own- but I wonder how disciplined his players would look if he had 30 less scholarships to give every year, hour/day restrictions on how often/how much to practice, changing rules on how to tackle.

I think there are a few coaches that still do this very well today. A few- the very elite. Which covers maybe 5. I think Lou would likely be on that list today, but I doubt that the disparity would be significantly different than it appears.

 

[echowaker]

Times have changed and I don't mean this to be disrespectful to Lou's legacy as it stands on its own- but I wonder how disciplined his players would look if he had 30 less scholarships to give every year, hour/day restrictions on how often/how much to practice, changing rules on how to tackle.

I think there are a few coaches that still do this very well today. A few- the very elite. Which covers maybe 5. I think Lou would likely be on that list today, but I doubt that the disparity would be significantly different than it appears.

well said. lou was a very good coach who had his share of issues at nd. any coach who stays that long at one place will have them. times have changed. i think it's harder today to have sustained success. lou would do fine but not sure if you would see the same dominance like 88-93.