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A few days ago Cameron Newton scored a touchdown and raised a clinched fist Black Panther style. He stated it was for "black power" and "black pride". Zero backlash, zero denunciation from the NFL, the panthers, or any company for whom he endorses.

Newton scoffs at a question from a female reporter about routes: "It's funny when a female asks me about routes". The NFL has denounced his statement, the Panthers have denounced his statement, Newton has apologized, and Dannon has dropped his endorsement.

What's the deal? Someone fill me in please..
 
mrwigglesby21 said:
A few days ago Cameron Newton scored a touchdown and raised a clinched fist Black Panther style. He stated it was for "black power" and "black pride". Zero backlash, zero denunciation from the NFL, the panthers, or any company for whom he endorses.

Newton scoffs at a question from a female reporter about routes: "It's funny when a female asks me about routes". The NFL has denounced his statement, the Panthers have denounced his statement, Newton has apologized, and Dannon has dropped his endorsement.

What's the deal? Someone fill me in please..
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In case you missed it, the NFL ownership is comprised of a gaggle of eccentric multi million/billion Aires who cower whenever these or similar shakedown operations rear their ugly heads. Thus far their main sponsors have equally gutless executive leadership who, despite massive fan negative reaction and disgust to the whole disgraceful National Anthem spectacle, have not yet pulled the financial plug. It’s plain and simple blackmail at this point. As long as the money flows in to their greedy pockets they will continue this hypocrisy.
 
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Domer7 said:
In case you missed it, the NFL ownership is comprised of a gaggle of eccentric multi million/billion Aires who cower whenever these or similar shakedown operations rear their ugly heads. Thus far their main sponsors have equally gutless executive leadership who, despite massive fan negative reaction and disgust to the whole disgraceful National Anthem spectacle, have not yet pulled the financial plug. It’s plain and simple blackmail at this point. As long as the money flows in to their greedy pockets they will continue this hypocrisy.
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They're not idiots.

Notice how the whole anthem thing was completely different this week compared to last week?

The outcry was heard loud and clear. You won't see them flirt with that too much.
 
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mrwigglesby21 said:
A few days ago Cameron Newton scored a touchdown and raised a clinched fist Black Panther style. He stated it was for "black power" and "black pride". Zero backlash, zero denunciation from the NFL, the panthers, or any company for whom he endorses.

Newton scoffs at a question from a female reporter about routes: "It's funny when a female asks me about routes". The NFL has denounced his statement, the Panthers have denounced his statement, Newton has apologized, and Dannon has dropped his endorsement.

What's the deal? Someone fill me in please..
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First of all he never said anything about Black power. Here is his actual quote...

“I did it to show black pride because I am an African American,” he said. “But more or less, I want all people just to see when I play, I want them to see the joy that I go out there and play with. Win, lose or draw, it was a great win for us today and I just hope that I — not I, we as a team, put a lot of smiles on the beautiful people of the Carolinas.”

What is wrong with taking pride in your culture? He never said Black Power.

I think what he said to the female was taken totally out of context. What if a male dress designer was asking questions to a women designer and the women replied with Cams answer?
 
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zonairish said:
Well the nfl was not willing to investigat3 the michael bennett case where he filed racial profiling charges against the Las Vegas pd., The video cam shows a different story . The owners are quick to go along with the players without evidence but will back down from the players because no one wants to be called a racist

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Tragically, last sentence pretty much applies to the entire US business world and is only a part of the bigger political agenda unleashed on our society by the liberal zealots who until recently controlled our government backed up by their media allies.
 
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Let's see, we have a tragic murder rate in our inner cities, there are homeless people that don't know where their next meal is coming from, terrorists bent on the destruction of our way of life and N. Korea with a nuclear bomb. The NFL is for entertainment purposes only. It is not important.
 
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Zorich 88 said:
First of all he never said anything about Black power. Here is his actual quote...

“I did it to show black pride because I am an African American,” he said. “But more or less, I want all people just to see when I play, I want them to see the joy that I go out there and play with. Win, lose or draw, it was a great win for us today and I just hope that I — not I, we as a team, put a lot of smiles on the beautiful people of the Carolinas.”

What is wrong with taking pride in your culture? He never said Black Power.

I think what he said to the female was taken totally out of context. What if a male dress designer was asking questions to a women designer and the women replied with Cams answer?
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He didn't?? Here is the real quote, where did you find yours? See that's the problem, not one left leaning publication commented on it at all. And now that you have the full quote, does that change your mind? Had Christian McCaffery made the same comments he would have been called a racist, the NFL and the Panthers would have denounced his statement and he would have had to issue an apology. There is a double standard plain and simple. What Newton said was divisive, period, yet nobody in the media has the balls to call him out for it. #sad

Newton's touchdown gave Carolina a 30-16 lead early in the fourth quarter and the Panthers held on for a 33-30 victory. Newton, who threw for 316 yards and three scores while rushing for 44 yards and the 7-yard touchdown, explained his touchdown celebration following the game.

"It was to signify Black Power, but more importantly, I pray every night for God to give me a pinnacle to give people hope," Newton said. "I did it to raise — to show Black Pride because I am an African American, but more or less, I want all people just to see when I play, I want them to see the joy that I go out there and play with.

"Win lose or draw, it was a great win for us today. I just hope that I put a lot, or not I, we as a team put a lot of smiles on the beautiful people of the Carolinas."
 
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57Patrick said:
Let's see, we have a tragic murder rate in our inner cities, there are homeless people that don't know where their next meal is coming from, terrorists bent on the destruction of our way of life and N. Korea with a nuclear bomb. The NFL is for entertainment purposes only. It is not important.
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It's important when when the MSM calls every word out of the President's mouth divisive, yet he has never said White Power and White Pride. There should be no double standard in society. All should be held accountable. MLKjr and the NAACP even denounced the Black Power / Panther movement as anti-white and promotion of segregation. The NFL is arguably the most popular sport in America, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP. You think if Peyton Manning said something similar after scoring a touchdown that it wouldn't be front page news of every publication in the states??
 
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It's important when when the MSM calls every word out of the President's mouth divisive, yet he has never said White Power and White Pride. There should be no double standard in society. All should be held accountable. MLKjr and the NAACP even denounced the Black Power / Panther movement as anti-white and promotion of segregation. The NFL is arguably the most popular sport in America, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP. You think if Peyton Manning said something similar after scoring a touchdown that it wouldn't be front page news of every publication in the states??
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When you've enabled people to have a voice that never should have had a voice...now you have this out of control monster.

I'm talking about handling the minorities with kid gloves and kissing their ass around the clock has led us right here.

If I walk into a black neighborhood...

Am I racially profiled in some way or other?

You better believe i am.
 
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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
That black people can scream black power but if a white person said white power rhet are racist. That's the point buddy ! Do you see the hypocrisy?
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I guess it's all in the context how "you" interpret. If you think Cam is going to recruit other young, black males to wear robes/hoods and intimidate and hurt white people you have a point. However if you think he's trying to get other young, black males to see their worth and stop gang banging, shooting each other, etc that's a different point. It's all in your perception and fears of people of color I guess.
 
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I guess it's all in the context how "you" interpret. If you think Cam is going to recruit other young, black males to wear robes/hoods and intimidate and hurt white people you have a point. However if you think he's trying to get other young, black males to see their worth and stop gang banging, shooting each other, etc that's a different point. It's all in your perception and fears of people of color I guess.
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How you interpret? How about addressing each other as human beings instead of what color you are . Then this country will be moving in the right direction. The more you segregate and pick and choose who can say what you continue and encourage the downward spiral.
 
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Zorich 88 said:
First of all he never said anything about Black power. Here is his actual quote...

“I did it to show black pride because I am an African American,” he said. “But more or less, I want all people just to see when I play, I want them to see the joy that I go out there and play with. Win, lose or draw, it was a great win for us today and I just hope that I — not I, we as a team, put a lot of smiles on the beautiful people of the Carolinas.”

What is wrong with taking pride in your culture? He never said Black Power.

I think what he said to the female was taken totally out of context. What if a male dress designer was asking questions to a women designer and the women replied with Cams answer?
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Where you at Zorich? Two separate times you said "He never said Black Power", only he did, so, what say you? Were Newton's comments divisive? And if so, why did the Panthers, the NFL, or any MSM not call him out on it?

Hold yourself accountable Zorich, don't be a coward.
 
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88ND said:
When you've enabled people to have a voice that never should have had a voice...now you have this out of control monster.

I'm talking about handling the minorities with kid gloves and kissing their ass around the clock has led us right here.

If I walk into a black neighborhood...

Am I racially profiled in some way or other?

You better believe i am.
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Who determines who should have a voice ?
 
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I guess it's all in the context how "you" interpret. If you think Cam is going to recruit other young, black males to wear robes/hoods and intimidate and hurt white people you have a point. However if you think he's trying to get other young, black males to see their worth and stop gang banging, shooting each other, etc that's a different point. It's all in your perception and fears of people of color I guess.
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Normally you're pretty spot on with your posts but this one... no...

I would bet a significant amount of money that his gesture had a far greater negative impact than positive.
For every one kid he helped inspire to go positive with their life another ten seen that as a lash out black power kind of way. I'd bet the farm on that.

This double standard bullshit has to stop. They jam down the throat of the white youth to look at everyone equally abd don't see color....
It's just not a two way street
 
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88ND said:
Normally you're pretty spot on with your posts but this one... no...

I would bet a significant amount of money that his gesture had a far greater negative impact than positive.
For every one kid he helped inspire to go positive with their life another ten seen that as a lash out black power kind of way. I'd bet the farm on that.

This double standard bullshit has to stop. They jam down the throat of the white youth to look at everyone equally abd don't see color....
It's just not a two way street
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Let me say regarding the quote specifically he could've left off the black power stuff. Not quite sure what's he's conveying there but Cam isn't known for being a genius.
 
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mrwigglesby21 said:
@Zorich 88 you gonna be a man and hold yourself accountable, or not?

Perhaps I would have better luck getting a response from you if I used a gender neutral pronoun?
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Here you go.
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@Zorich 88 you gonna be a man and hold yourself accountable, or not?

Perhaps I would have better luck getting a response from you if I used a gender neutral pronoun?
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First of all, I don't hang out 24 7 on message boards.

Black Power or Black Pride I will defend both. Black power is nothing like white power. White power was birthed out of hate. Black power was birthed out of a need. At the time the phrase Black power was coined, Black people were being treated like animals. Black people felt as though they had no power over their own lives let alone their future. Black Power with the fist raised was a way Black people could say we as Americans have power. We have the power to be what we want. If we want to be educators or doctors, we can. If we want to go to college we can. If we want to move to an all White upper class neighborhood we can. Cam is simply telling Black America remember, you have the power to become whatever you want to.
 
Zorich 88 said:
First of all, I don't hang out 24 7 on message boards.

Black Power or Black Pride I will defend both. Black power is nothing like white power. White power was birthed out of hate. Black power was birthed out of a need. At the time the phrase Black power was coined, Black people were being treated like animals. Black people felt as though they had no power over their own lives let alone their future. Black Power with the fist raised was a way Black people could say we as Americans have power. We have the power to be what we want. If we want to be educators or doctors, we can. If we want to go to college we can. If we want to move to an all White upper class neighborhood we can. Cam is simply telling Black America remember, you have the power to become whatever you want to.
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So rather than hold yourself accountable for posting inaccurate information you would prefer to move the target.

You started your response by commenting that he didn't say black power, you then ended your response saying again that he didn't say black power. Obviously you recognize the negative connotations of Cam's remarks, otherwise you wouldn't have attempted to "clarify" (incorrectly) them so fervently.

I am well aware of what the Black Power movement was in the past. Are you suggesting "blacks" take up the movement again?

Cam should have been reprimanded and educated, similarly to his "insensitive gender" comment.
 
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Zorich 88 said:
First of all, I don't hang out 24 7 on message boards.

Black Power or Black Pride I will defend both. Black power is nothing like white power. White power was birthed out of hate. Black power was birthed out of a need. At the time the phrase Black power was coined, Black people were being treated like animals. Black people felt as though they had no power over their own lives let alone their future. Black Power with the fist raised was a way Black people could say we as Americans have power. We have the power to be what we want. If we want to be educators or doctors, we can. If we want to go to college we can. If we want to move to an all White upper class neighborhood we can. Cam is simply telling Black America remember, you have the power to become whatever you want to.
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Way past time to call/recognize it for what is....a smokescreen for the subversive liberal attempt to force their so called utopian society on our country. Just a new “handle” for the destructive and divisive agenda they hope will lead them to a dictatorial form of government they can control and dominate. Along the way they have successfully enlisted countless fellow travelers who are either brainwashed by the educational establishment and biased media or so far gone they have no desire to delve into the real facts and issues. It is really nothing more than a new level of an advanced and sophisticated phase of decades old race hustling.
 
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So rather than hold yourself accountable for posting inaccurate information you would prefer to move the target.

You started your response by commenting that he didn't say black power, you then ended your response saying again that he didn't say black power. Obviously you recognize the negative connotations of Cam's remarks, otherwise you wouldn't have attempted to "clarify" (incorrectly) them so fervently.

I am well aware of what the Black Power movement was in the past. Are you suggesting "blacks" take up the movement again?

Cam should have been reprimanded and educated, similarly to his "insensitive gender" comment.
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I went totally off a quote I found and posted. The post I found said nothing about Black Power. So, going off the quote I found I pointed out Black Power was never mentioned.

To make this clear, there was and is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what Cam said. That is why the NFL did and said nothing about Cam mentioning Black Pride or Black Power. It was YOU that has the problem with the statement.

What problem do you see in Cams comments about Black Pride or Black Power???

Did I quote wrong YES! Do I see anything wrong in saying Black Power NO!

And yes, Black people should take up Black power and Have Black Pride again. My wife is Black. Therefore as a parent of children that have and will continue to be judged by their skin color I absolutely love what CK did. It was a peaceful demonstration.
 
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I went totally off a quote I found and posted. The post I found said nothing about Black Power. So, going off the quote I found I pointed out Black Power was never mentioned.

To make this clear, there was and is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what Cam said. That is why the NFL did and said nothing about Cam mentioning Black Pride or Black Power. It was YOU that has the problem with the statement.

What problem do you see in Cams comments about Black Pride or Black Power???

Did I quote wrong YES! Do I see anything wrong in saying Black Power NO!

And yes, Black people should take up Black power and Have Black Pride again. My wife is Black. Therefore as a parent of children that have and will continue to be judged by their skin color I absolutely love what CK did. It was a peaceful demonstration.
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What state is this continued judgement of skin color taking place? Just curious.
 
Zorich 88 said:
First of all he never said anything about Black power. Here is his actual quote...

“I did it to show black pride because I am an African American,” he said. “But more or less, I want all people just to see when I play, I want them to see the joy that I go out there and play with. Win, lose or draw, it was a great win for us today and I just hope that I — not I, we as a team, put a lot of smiles on the beautiful people of the Carolinas.”

What is wrong with taking pride in your culture? He never said Black Power.

I think what he said to the female was taken totally out of context. What if a male dress designer was asking questions to a women designer and the women replied with Cams answer?
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Would a white player who showed exuberance for being a caucasian be treated the same?
 
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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
That black people can scream black power but if a white person said white power rhet are racist. That's the point buddy ! Do you see the hypocrisy?
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Ha; it's sure tough being a white American male! We're so picked upon!

I'll say this: it is easier to deal with that "hypocrisy" than it is being a second class citizen.

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ivan brunetti said:
Ha; it's sure tough being a white American male! We're so picked upon!

I'll say this: it is easier to deal with that "hypocrisy" than it is being a second class citizen.

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First of all leftist are all POS. We see these pics we do not know the whole story. it does not say the whole story. However, are you showing the 5 cops executed by a leftist POS BLM in Dallas? Of course not. Are you showing the cops that were killed execution-style in NYC by Leftist Socialist inspired BLM and the media of course not. It may not be good what happened in this pic but he is living. Did you look at the video that I posted earlier on the football player who protesting police treatment. He lied about it so the police released the video because the NFL refused to investigate it. Leftist are scum. They are the problem.
 
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First of all leftist are all POS. We see these pics we do not know the whole story. it does not say the whole story. However, are you showing the 5 cops executed by a leftist POS BLM in Dallas? Of course not. Are you showing the cops that were killed execution-style in NYC by Leftist Socialist inspired BLM and the media of course not. It may not be good what happened in this pic but he is living. Did you look at the video that I posted earlier on the football player who protesting police treatment. He lied about it so the police released the video because the NFL refused to investigate it. Leftist are scum. They are the problem.
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The difference is, when some scumbag kills a cop, they usually end up dead. And when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed citizen, they usually aren't even charged.
 
ivan brunetti said:
The difference is, when some scumbag kills a cop, they usually end up dead. And when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed citizen, they usually aren't even charged.
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Typical leftist does justification. Every cop involved in a shooting is investigated. Ferguson hands up don't shoot did not happen. the cop was exonerated and he deserved to be. So it was OK for the police to die in Dallas. Hey, one cop placed his body in front of a BLM protester he died they did not. SJW reaction another white male especially cop dead. Go away with your worthless opinions.
 
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The difference is, when some scumbag kills a cop, they usually end up dead. And when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed citizen, they usually aren't even charged.
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Very very misleading

All because the victim did not have a weapon on does not mean they were not a threat to the officers life.

You need to educate yourself a little more
 
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Zorich 88 said:
I went totally off a quote I found and posted. The post I found said nothing about Black Power. So, going off the quote I found I pointed out Black Power was never mentioned.

To make this clear, there was and is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what Cam said. That is why the NFL did and said nothing about Cam mentioning Black Pride or Black Power. It was YOU that has the problem with the statement.

What problem do you see in Cams comments about Black Pride or Black Power???

Did I quote wrong YES! Do I see anything wrong in saying Black Power NO!

And yes, Black people should take up Black power and Have Black Pride again. My wife is Black. Therefore as a parent of children that have and will continue to be judged by their skin color I absolutely love what CK did. It was a peaceful demonstration.
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Just curious did you marry your wife because of her skin color, or because she was a beautiful individual?

.what are you opinions of white pride ...... Does that offend you...... Hispanic Pride....... Did that offend you....,. Oriental Pride........?

I have a bunch of black friends Hispanic friends I never judge them on anything but their actions as an individual. They did not become my friends because of their skin color but because of who they are.
That's what most people do. I hope you, and your wife choose to raise your child as an individual.

Now I expect I will see a response to how I root for the black man on the football field wearing a jersey that I like but not as an individual..... You know the kind of stuff you came at me with without knowing a thing about me.
By the way my children are half Hispanic and half Jewish,, but 100% American and are individuals not colors.
Just how I raised them
 
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Zorich 88 said:
I went totally off a quote I found and posted. The post I found said nothing about Black Power. So, going off the quote I found I pointed out Black Power was never mentioned.

To make this clear, there was and is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what Cam said. That is why the NFL did and said nothing about Cam mentioning Black Pride or Black Power. It was YOU that has the problem with the statement.

What problem do you see in Cams comments about Black Pride or Black Power???

Did I quote wrong YES! Do I see anything wrong in saying Black Power NO!

And yes, Black people should take up Black power and Have Black Pride again. My wife is Black. Therefore as a parent of children that have and will continue to be judged by their skin color I absolutely love what CK did. It was a peaceful demonstration.
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My brother is mulatto.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Unless you want to dive into deep philosophical conversation about there literally is no right or wrong - just what is..

The NAACP and MLKjr both stated that the Black Power movement was the wrong way to attack the problem:

Criticism
Bayard Rustin, an elder statesman of the Civil Rights Movement, was a harsh critic of Black Power in its earliest days. Writing in 1966, shortly after the March Against Fear, Rustin said that Black Power "not only lacks any real value for the civil rights movement, but [...] its propagation is positively harmful. It diverts the movement from a meaningful debate over strategy and tactics, it isolates the Negro community, and it encourages the growth of anti-Negro forces." He particularly criticized the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and SNCC for their turn toward Black Power, arguing that these two organizations once "awakened the country, but now they emerge isolated and demoralized, shouting a slogan that may afford a momentary satisfaction but that is calculated to destroy them and their movement."[71]

The Black Power slogan was also criticized by Martin Luther King Jr., who stated that the black power movement "connotates [sic] black supremacy and an anti-white feeling that does not or should not prevail."[72] The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) also disapproved of Black Power, particularly Roy Wilkins, then the NAACP's executive director, who stated that Black Power was "a reverse Hitler, a reverse Ku Klux Klan...the father of hate and mother of violence."[9] The Black Power slogan was also met with opposition from the leadership of SCLC and the Urban League.[8]

Politicians also spoke out against Black Power: during his presidency, Lyndon Johnson stated "we are not interested in Black Power, and we're not interested in white power."[73] At a 1966 NAACP rally, Vice President Hubert Humphrey argued "Racism is racism and we must reject calls for racism whether they come from a throat that is white or one that is black."

The aforementioned is what I see wrong with Cam's comments, do you get it now? Either we strive for an equal society where discrimination and/or adjulation doesn't take place based on skin color, or we do what Cam suggested - huddle up with each other based on skin color.

Are you familiar with the Ten-Point Program of the Black Panther Party? I suggest giving it a gander. And, if I was a black man, I could see getting behind several of the points, but it certainly isn't an inclusive program, it's racist, and assumes all whites are racists, which is why MLKjr and others denounced it.

Which stance / action has provided more positive outcomes and reverberated throughout society more profoundly - Black Power or Martin Luther King Jr.?

Police Brutality is a problem, but it's an ALL COLOR problem - not just those with darker skin.
 
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Very very misleading

All because the victim did not have a weapon on does not mean they were not a threat to the officers life.

You need to educate yourself a little more
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Simply claiming some unarmed person is "a threat to my life" does not justify shooting. That goes for citizens and should go for the police as well.

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