As I predicated Kizer to Cleveland...He will be a work in progress.
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Well the pros are way different then college. So they are not wrong about this at all.... Right ?? NDSCM.!!!!!!!!
One more year? He should have stayed two more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then get drafted by the Bears and spend his summers in Grand Haven!
UOTE="TOMMY_23, post: 1994062, member: 58246"]One more year? He should have stayed two more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then get drafted by the Bears and spend his summers in Grand Haven![/QUOTE]I think Coach Kelly tried to tell him that but like most teenagers he knew better...We will see...Of course you might not even see kizer for a couple of years...
I think Coach Kelly tried to tell him that but like most teenagers he knew better...We will see...Of course you might not even see kizer for a couple of years...[/QUOTE]
You really like teenagers don't you, pike?
What are the odds Kizer will turn into the a really good QB in Cleveland? .... not good .... some people here have selective memories .... Kizer had some really good games with ND (what some only remeber) .... more good games than bad .... although he had his share of stinkers ..... best since Claussen ???? .... disagree .... this guys has thrown his share of dump passes to RB's out of the backfield 5 ft over their head
Who has been better at QB at ND since Clausen? It's a landslide that it has been Kizer. Not even close.
He will be a complete bust in the pros. This is no shot against him it's more a shot of the Cleveland Browns. Where not just quarterbacks but all football players go to Die. The definition of dysfunctional organization
Landslide? ... disagree .... not that he hasn't been good IMO .... and Clausen was way better ... He could flat out chuck it ... Kizer is just a good athlete ..... and it is easy to fall in love with 6-5 .... If he was 6-2 we wouldn't be having this conversation ....... Kizer is one of the reasons (after Kelly) that ND hasn't beat a top 10 team or won a major bowl in forever .... he may exceed my expectations ... as for now ... I see him as career backup at best ..... going to Cleveland doesn't help ... not his fault ..... not like an Aaron Rodgers getting to go to Green Bay ..... I don't see him as good as Clausen or Brady Quinn ..... so I don't see Kizer making it .... if he does I'll be the 1st one to say you said so
I think Golsen was better .... better runner and thrower .... but IMO they are not that far apart ..... I think Zaire was better before the injury .... I don't think he was given fair chance to win the job back ..... after watching Rees it was a pleasure to watch a QB with athleticism like Kizer had ... he made some big plays .... I just saw too much inconsistency to say he was better
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Golsen? I don't know who that is, but there was a Golson that played at ND that was nowhere near the runner Kizer is. Golson never would've taken that 80-yard run to the house at Temple like DK did. Golson could scramble in the pocket but he was slow in terms of running in the open field.
Pop in some ND tape of E.G. and you'll start to have nightmares. He's way more responsible for Kelly not winning a major bowl game. Because if he is as good as you think he was then he should've stayed academically eligible and 2013 wouldn't of been the Rees $H!t show. That year could've been Fiesta Bowl worthy with a better QB.
Golson was rendered to handing the ball off in 2015 at FSU and couldn't even get in to an NFL training camp. You can say Kizer will be a career back-up in the NFL and that's still better than being a career back-up in the CFL.
ND had no shot of getting to a major bowl game even before the Texas game started in 2016- total rebuilding year from the start. Kizer had one legit shot at a BCS-style bowl win against an OSU team that overmatched his team from the start. I hardly blame him for not being able to stop the Buckeyes run game in his one chance at a major bowl win.
Yes, it's a landslide. Kizer is the best QB since Jimmy.
Better scrambler means he was better at keeping plays alive .... 80 yds to the house?? ... Golsen probably doesn't do that ..... then again .... Kizer did that once? ... maybe twice .... once? .... for his one highlight play Golsen kept many more alive .... some players make better college QB's ..... Kizer was overmatched against OSU .... he was against every big team .... against FSU he stunk for 3 qtrs before playing one good one in the 4th ..... judging Golen in FSU is hard to do ..... 8-10 weeks of practice to learn new system and players .... yet he went there and started (for FSU) .......Kizer does have better chance in NFL .... they love 6-5 .... I just don't think they are going to tolerate overthrowing RB's out of the backfield by 10 ft and INT's when he is running for his life in Cleveland .... time will tell
I'm not trying to say Golsen was the man .... just don't think Kizer is either. Landslide? meh
I hope he doesn't win the starting job. That would just be throwing him to the wolves. He's not ready to play yet.
I believe I saw an ESPN sports news ticker that stated there is no time line for DK to play or start. They want him developed and will not throw him out to the wolves. Not sure if that was ownership, GM, or coaching staff that made the statement.
While both guys have ended up being amazingly successful, I would take the Aaron Rodgers career track over the Matt Ryan career track. One guy got to apprentice for a few years, learn the system, learn the NFL game, the other got handed the ball as a rookie and had 100% OJT. IMHO, it would be better for Kizer's career possibilities to sit and watch and learn.
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