Adams and Wimbush

[Syd4ND]

Something not right. I think the left hand is worse than was told. And do not underestimate a glove and hurt non throwing hand in a QBs ability to throw correctly. It creates a different feel on the ball. Adams still looked off. His posture looked heavy and he seemed labored. I do not think it was all Miami. Kelly's willingness to turn to Book in the 1st half really makes me wonder. It's not an excuse for losing but I wonder if it changed the trajectory of the game.

 

[mmboys07]

Something not right. I think the left hand is worse than was told. And do not underestimate a glove and hurt non throwing hand in a QBs ability to throw correctly. It creates a different feel on the ball. Adams still looked off. His posture looked heavy and he seemed labored. I do not think it was all Miami. Kelly's willingness to turn to Book in the 1st half really makes me wonder. It's not an excuse for losing but I wonder if it changed the trajectory of the game.

Had to go to Book. Wimbush was horrible. How more bad turnovers did you need?

 

[Syd4ND]

It's more about why he was bad. Not was he. I'm wondering about the hand. I've coached QBs many seasons. Gloves and non throwing hand injuries get passed off. I had a 3000 yard passer who hurt his non throwing hand and wire a glove. Suddenly he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a hand Grenade.

 

[john0gaunt]

I was worried about his hand this week. Kelly mentioned that when he started Book bc BW was injured, BW spent the game trying to get back in instead of helping coach Book. BW may be concerned about losing his starting job and won't say if it hurts? But BW puts the ball into the receivers hands and they need to catch it so it isn't all BW. I still think BW has a John Elway problem. He zips it to them and they can't catch it.

 

[Crabwalkers]

I heard that Adams had a quiz on Tuesday and was not mentally ready for the game! LOL. Only at ND!!

 

[dohster]

Adams looks like he is hurt.. just like last year.. did anyone hear anything?

 

[88ND]

It's more about why he was bad. Not was he. I'm wondering about the hand. I've coached QBs many seasons. Gloves and non throwing hand injuries get passed off. I had a 3000 yard passer who hurt his non throwing hand and wire a glove. Suddenly he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a hand Grenade.

But Wimbush accuracy is atrocious from day one...good hand , bad hand , he's just innacurate.

 

[88ND]

I was worried about his hand this week. Kelly mentioned that when he started Book bc BW was injured, BW spent the game trying to get back in instead of helping coach Book. BW may be concerned about losing his starting job and won't say if it hurts? But BW puts the ball into the receivers hands and they need to catch it so it isn't all BW. I still think BW has a John Elway problem. He zips it to them and they can't catch it.

We see two different QB on the field then.

I see a QB who makes a great on target strike to the numbers. Then turn right around and throw a ball three feet too high or skip it off the turf at the cleats on a screen pass.

I watched Elway okay and I've never see errant passes like such and BW pribkem is not from throwing the ball too hard.

 

[hoopsstar12]

Wimbush missed the pass on first series of game to St Brown. It would have been 7 to 0 ND. Then he missed Claypool then scrambled for his life. Kelly needs a pure drop back passer taller than Book who can also run. He needs a 5 star QB. Wimbush will always be a scrambler. I am not sure what he expects Avery Davis to do. Unless he wants to run the Georgia Tech offense.

 

[john0gaunt]

We see two different QB on the field then.

You're just talking the Miami game. I think the hand injury is problem for him. He's thrown some ropes out there during Miami and earlier games, some caught some not.

I think he has 2 years eligibility after this year. If he played them all he would be the best QB I've seen at ND since BQ. If he had Fuller he'd be undefeated and the #1 team in the country right now. But I'm a homer.

 

[88ND]

You're just talking the Miami game. I think the hand injury is problem for him. He's thrown some ropes out there during Miami and earlier games, some caught some not.

I think he has 2 years eligibility after this year. If he played them all he would be the best QB I've seen at ND since BQ. If he had Fuller he'd be undefeated and the #1 team in the country right now. But I'm a homer.

Absolutley positively not.

I've said about his accuracy issues all year. Because it's been a problem for him all year

 

[john0gaunt]

Absolutley positively not.
I've said about his accuracy issues all year.

And I've said all year long you're wrong. The receivers need to step up and catch the ball.

 

[88ND]

And I've said all year long you're wrong. The receivers need to step up and catch the ball.

So you think Wimbush has been an accurate passer all year long and this is all on the recievers?

I agree with you the reciever play needs to be better. A simple catch of the football goes a long way however...

Example...last night screen pass behind the reciever at his cleats... Now let me ask you is that the first pass you've seen him make like that? It wasn't for me. That was about the fifth screen pass he's thrown that way vs about three thrown good.

Was the first pick on EQ or BW? He threw it four feet too high. Were you expecting EQ to get up there and get that?

Here is the crazy part....

Let's extend BK a little respect here in that at the very least he recognizes BW short comings as a passer.

Now you'd think he would be practicing him throwing with accuracy aa much as the NCAA will permit.

Yet every week we see a good throw vs a throw missing by a mile.

If you haven't seen him throwing bad passes other than last night then I must ask was that the first game you've seen him play?

May things can have an opinion on but this is one that is pretty clear. He has accuracy issues and they are pretty damn glaring.

 

[john0gaunt]

You keep using the Miami game. I don't think BW is 100%

Other than thst this is his 1st year and he has different set of receivers almost every week. Some of the miss by a mile were caused by receivers running wrong routes.

Kids a star. Man if he had Fuller.

 

[justified1]

Wimbush needs to have the disposition that he has to think run 1st and pass 2nd.
His running makes him a more effective passer and creates one/one coverage for WR’s.
Sat. night Wimbush ran only as last resort or when chased out of the pocket. And he ran defensively not with purpose.

Duel threat: Could not pass, could not run. That will absolutely makethe OL look bad.

 

[john0gaunt]

Wimbush needs to have the disposition that he has to think run 1st and pass 2nd.

I completely disagree. He is a great runner with great speed, but every time he does it he risks getting injured. (eg his hand). This team has way too many weapons on offense to risk it. I'd be making him run 20 laps for each time he does it in a less than critical situation. Save it for critical moments then slide or get oob.

 

[TDIrish27]

Has played 8 games-----will get better.

Has improved since Game 1-----with young QB's you need to be patient.

They'll be inconsistent at times and you need to live with it.

Glad BW is the ND QB.

 

[HDK]

I was worried about his hand this week. Kelly mentioned that when he started Book bc BW was injured, BW spent the game trying to get back in instead of helping coach Book. BW may be concerned about losing his starting job and won't say if it hurts? But BW puts the ball into the receivers hands and they need to catch it so it isn't all BW. I still think BW has a John Elway problem. He zips it to them and they can't catch it.

First and last time you'll ever see Wimbush compared to John Elway.

 

[coolirish9]

someone on another board posted Wimbush's senior stats and he threw for well over 3,000 yds. question is how can he throw for over 3,000 yds his senior year but yet can't throw a decent ball over thirty or so yds in college. hope he improves and does great things at nd but i'm confused by this

 

[zonairish]

this game was on the coaches. Yes, Wimbush played terribly and he may need a lot of coaching. Is Tommy Rees hearing this? If you watch the game again they were calling pulling guard power stuff. They should have run straight. It would have been quicker. No slow develping off tackle plays. Also BW needs a lot of work.