He wasn’t a ‘former’ backup. ND coaches decided on a one year lease rather than a 3 year investment, strange times indeed.
Some people are convinced Hartman is the answer to all of NDs problems; he's the magic unicorn we've all been waiting for at QB who is going to patch up all the holes in NDs program and somehow crank it up a notch and magically turn ND into a tier 1 program (against all logic mind you)
Yeah absolutely no one said that. But we are willing to say Hartman is already as good as any qb in the Kelly era and could do better.
We’ll find out in 5 months…. I personally think Buchner is not good and diggs is slightly overrated. I think they both believe they’re significantly better than they are. If I’m right, they won’t do well and ND will. If I’m wrong, and they blow up and do great, we may have some major coaching issues.
I mean wake forest fans would know, given their rich football history.
If you can’t see how much better Hartman is than Buchner then I don’t know what your are watching. Marshall. Marshall!! Turnover machine vs USC bowl game replacements. More of the same problems in the BG scrimmage. You wanted to start this guy this year?
Was that podcast from your basement?
Don't forget, this is the same guy that thought Swarbrick was responsible for the quality of players on the roster--like he's a GM instead of an AD...he knows nothing about college football except what he hears on podcasts from Wake Forest
What the F are you talking about? God damn does this board have a effed-up collection of losers and trolls. On the one hand, we have sjb, our total psycho, weirdo phony ND lickspittle, who couldn't be any more obviously deeply disturbed. And then we have you on other end of the spectrum somewhere, with your unrelenting pseudo intellectual/high-tech takes on ND's various failings and whatnot. And for both of you your lust to give your life meaning, respectively, through either constant praising or denigrating ND football, is just unpleasantly palpable....
Lol. Shows how delusional people are. When the **** is Wake ever going to get another Hartman? NEVER.
Players have always been willing to wait their turn for playing time at schools like Texas, Bama, USC, etc. They aren’t willing to wait at ND. It has been that way for a long time.
TB was going on year three. He’s not a top flight QB. In fact he’s another turnover machine.
He’s never going to be an NFL talent. Bama might view him as a stick mover. He’s got a degree of Tebow in there somewhere. That said, I think he ends up at Stanford or SDSU.
I agree. I think that’s where his talent level should’ve taken him. But I understand what he’s doing. Why not hit the lottery ticket in the biggest venue? But, In January TB will be at San Diego State where the offense will revolve around him and they’ll go 8-4.
Bama is about to have their worst season in the Saban era. I don’t see this QB issue going well. They can’t just run the ball against TN, LSU, Georgia, Ole Miss, Florida. They’re going to have to play keep up with the SEC. TB cannot play Tennessee football and throw 65 yard dimes 5 times a game.
Agreed with all of this. I was just offering some perspective on the Hartman acquisition. He's a solid QB that is going to keep the position afloat. He's not some impact talent that is going to make up for all the holes on the offensive side of the ball and within the program at large (which some fans are convinced of).
That is false. Those schools have had many transfers over the years.
My take on all this: TB is injury prone, is an Int and pick six machine ( two against a depleted USC secondary and his passing skill did not progress in three years.
Interesting take.
