Alabama was 10 and 2 and did not make NY6 Utah as well I believeYep, if they were in a conference with a 10-2 good possibility they are in NY6 bowl.
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Alabama was 10 and 2 and did not make NY6 Utah as well I believeYep, if they were in a conference with a 10-2 good possibility they are in NY6 bowl.
Not a good matchup. 10-2 team vs. a 7-5 team?
Utah is playing 7 and 5 Texas. Utah was 11 and 2 and in a conferenceNot a good matchup. 10-2 team vs. a 7-5 team?
They say “that’s what you get for not belonging to a conference and playing in a conference championship”
Cyclones are thrilled, of course.
One of many reasons why. Too many fans and decision makers at the university are stuck on tradition and don't like change. It's getting a bit boring to be honest. Time to upgrade the football program to today's game.UVA in the Orange Bowl ..... Exactly why we need to be in a conference
In horse racing the track condition often makes a big difference. Some horses excel on grass, others on a fast dirt track and some in mud. When I played baseball, I was at my best when the temperature exceeded 90 degrees. I’m not sure if it was me playing better or other players playing worse in the heat. I’m not making an excuse for ND but just saying it is possible that, although a lot of people say both teams played in the rain, one team might be better than the other in inclement weather. Also, perhaps Michigan had better shoes, maybe special water repellent jerseys, etc. My point is, keep an open mind to all possibilities.So .....Michigan had better weather when they had the ball. Lols. Epic fail!
The CFP, in my opinion actually hurts CFB interest. I know myself, if ND isn't in the CFP, then I follow our bowl onlySeeing Virginia and Memphis make an NY6 bowl further proves the point that if you dont make the playoffs then your bowl game isn't all that impressive. Am I disappointed that ND didn't get an NY6 bowl, yeah. But at the same time I think the major bowls outside of the playoffs have lost its relevancy.
Not a good matchup. 10-2 team vs. a 7-5 team?
They say “that’s what you get for not belonging to a conference and playing in a conference championship”
Cyclones are thrilled, of course.
You also had 4 and 5 teams vying for a National Title, making the major bowls relevant. You will recall, we won one going into New Years Day ranked 5th. That no longer happens and the bowls are rendered irrelevantIt's a myth that the major bowls always had relevancy. Many times, you had two, three, and even four loss teams playing in the major bowls. It was rare that you had one against two. It was the pageantry. The tradition of New Years Day. That was the thing about the bowls up and until the BCS era. Plus, going back even further, you had to earn your way to a bowl because there wasn't all that many.
Man this really sucks! Nothing to gain if ND wins and a whole lot to lose if they lose.
This argument doesn't fly because BK's Irish teams have a precedent of fails in major prime time games in nice weather too. When the coach has that "what have I got myself into" look on his face, the players read his body language and play to their HC. It's astounding how out of sorts they all look from beginning to end.In horse racing the track condition often makes a big difference. Some horses excel on grass, others on a fast dirt track and some in mud. When I played baseball, I was at my best when the temperature exceeded 90 degrees. I’m not sure if it was me playing better or other players playing worse in the heat. I’m not making an excuse for ND but just saying it is possible that, although a lot of people say both teams played in the rain, one team might be better than the other in inclement weather. Also, perhaps Michigan had better shoes, maybe special water repellent jerseys, etc. My point is, keep an open mind to all possibilities.
Irish jumped Bama that year for the title. LOL! ND demolished #1 and Bama beats up #8. The pollsters had a rare moment of clarity and voted Irish #1.You also had 4 and 5 teams vying for a National Title, making the major bowls relevant. You will recall, we won one going into New Years Day ranked 5th. That no longer happens and the bowls are rendered irrelevant
NoneThere are consequences for losing. There are consequences for getting slapped around by Michigan. The question is this. What Irish players, if any, will opt out of playing in the bowl game?
I keep asking, but no real legitimate answers, ... Give me the 1 to 5 legitimate benefits to ND remaining independent???? Anybody ...
Tradition for a lot of people. But that's a sucky reason to keep the football program stuck in the past.I keep asking, but no real legitimate answers, ... Give me the 1 to 5 legitimate benefits to ND remaining independent???? Anybody ...
All of these have been said before and you are probably too stupid to remember but for the last time:I keep asking, but no real legitimate answers, ... Give me the 1 to 5 legitimate benefits to ND remaining independent???? Anybody ...
Hey I didn't revert to name calling, and I paid for my ND degree, so I resent being told I'm stupid ... None of those reasons hold any water in the current landscape, none of help ND compete for National Titles in the current CFBAll of these have been said before and you are probably too stupid to remember but for the last time:
1. Joining a conf takes away a distinct advantage of making your own schedule which ND could use to its advantage and why there are so many cries to force ND into a conf. Why give that away?
2.Joining a conf regionalizes ND which is a national brand. Now they can play in the north, south, east and west and still keep traditional games with USC, Stan and Navy while adding games with GA, Tex, Wisc, Mich etc.
3. Joining a conf means you have to play the same league and division opponents every year. The ACC sucks this year and would do nothing for strength of schedule. ND would have to play 4 games in the state of NC and 2 in Virg over 2 seasons no matter how bad those teams are. Big 10 is even worse with no southern or southwest exposure.
4. Join a conf and recruiting exposure is narrowed. The recruiting hotbeds are FL, GA, LA, Tex and CA and just look down ND's roster roster to see how many states are repped. That is because ND is a national brand name. The longer ND plays in a conf the more that is lost and it becomes Northwestern or Wake Forest.
5. When play for pay starts in 2021 ND's national exposure and strong brand will draw players and sponsors for those players. Do you think Coke wants to sponsor the likeness of a player from NW or Wake when they can show off their brand nationally with an ND player.
Enough reasons?
Hey I didn't revert to name calling, and I paid for my ND degree ... did you? None of those reasons hold any water in the current landscape, none of help ND compete for National Titles in the current CFB
A good coach always gets his team ready to play.I’m not hear to bad mouth the Cyclones or anybody for that matter. I like their coach and they had a decent year. With that said, if you are ND, how do you get up for this game ? I have no doubt Iowa St will be sky high for this matchup. I just don’t see the Irish getting excited about this game. Maybe I’m wrong. I don’t know. ND gains nothing from a win. It is essentially a meaningless bowl game against an unranked opponent. Heck, I could see ND losing this game too. Well either way the game will be played. I hope they win. I also hope they come out of this game injury free. I’m already looking forward to next season.
Nah. They were a disappointment. That team should’ve won more than 7 games with the talent they have
You are wrongHey I didn't revert to name calling, and I paid for my ND degree, so I resent being told I'm stupid ... None of those reasons hold any water in the current landscape, none of help ND compete for National Titles in the current CFB
Alabama was 10 and 2 and did not make NY6 Utah as well I believe
It gave the sunkbears a free ride after getting slaughtered by Wisky and ohio state. Now they get to play an angry Bama team that will wash them out to sea. I'm glad it's not ND going into that hornets nest.
Utah was 11 and 2 and not in NY6. Conf affiliation had nothing to do with itBama has the same problem as us @10-2. The "2" refers to the only good teams on the extremely unbalanced schedule.
I keep asking, but no real legitimate answers, ... Give me the 1 to 5 legitimate benefits to ND remaining independent???? Anybody ...
Harbaugh will be holding a sleep over with mickey while in Orlando.I would have liked Oklahoma State or Texas.
This matchup sucks.
Iowa State is the reward for going 10-2
Yuck!
I hope the playoff expands to 6 or 8.
On the bright side, Better this than Michigan getting walloped by Alabama in front of Mickey & Minnie.
Alabama 60 Meatchicken 2!haha. 45-14. Eat it. Oh, and Enjoy the Camping World Gas Grill Sleeping Bag epic matchup with Southeast Iowa State!
Yea 1-100 is that those who make the decisions don’t view it in terms of benefits, but in terms of what the core identity of the program and University is (and isn’t).I keep asking, but no real legitimate answers, ... Give me the 1 to 5 legitimate benefits to ND remaining independent???? Anybody ...
So SEC schools playing FCS teams to build their resume is ok? NM and Bowling Green are at least D12: New Mexico & Bowling Green
Purs is a trolling nutbag who roots for the Trojans!So SEC schools playing FCS teams to build their resume is ok? NM and Bowling Green are at least D1
haha. 45-14. Eat it. Oh, and Enjoy the Camping World Gas Grill Sleeping Bag epic matchup with Southeast Iowa State!
I could see chase sitting out because I believe he has been playing hurt. But that’s just if I had to guess I haven’t read anything suggesting he mightThere are consequences for losing. There are consequences for getting slapped around by Michigan. The question is this. What Irish players, if any, will opt out of playing in the bowl game?
Join the ACCIowa State has had a good season and relative to talent acquired, really good.
The problem is that as ND, we get nothing out of a win, and will eat a lot of shit if we lose.