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ND and House V. NCAA

ND would fit best in the bigten in regards to geography, history, academics and existing rivalries..despise losing to ND, but love the rivalry..ND would be a feather in the bigten's cap, add prestige to the conference..sure, under current conditions ND will stay independent..however, there will be revenue sharing, and there will be the dissolution of the acc..unless ND wants to park its non football sports in the big 12 or sec, they will be pushed toward joining a conference...add in the reduced revenue after paying a compulsory $hare to the players, and it might be a fiscal necessity to join a conference for a bigger chunk of tv money...and my question came about because of the pending litigation that will result in mandatory revenue sharing..thought it was worth an ask
I'm not so sure the ACC will be dissolved, that's premature. But if it was, we could put our Olympic sports in any number of conferences including the Big10 but still stay an independent in football.

ND is not joining a conference any time soon. A lot would have to happen for them to make that move. No reason to right now

The acc is a better academic fit for ND

ND and House V. NCAA

Just curious. Why would you love ND to join the big ten? Knowing the past gripes and grudges and our fierce desire to remain independent, why bother to come here with a hypothetical “gentle nudge” question?
ND would fit best in the bigten in regards to geography, history, academics and existing rivalries..despise losing to ND, but love the rivalry..ND would be a feather in the bigten's cap, add prestige to the conference..sure, under current conditions ND will stay independent..however, there will be revenue sharing, and there will be the dissolution of the acc..unless ND wants to park its non football sports in the big 12 or sec, they will be pushed toward joining a conference...add in the reduced revenue after paying a compulsory $hare to the players, and it might be a fiscal necessity to join a conference for a bigger chunk of tv money...and my question came about because of the pending litigation that will result in mandatory revenue sharing..thought it was worth an ask
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talk of ND joining a conference is a yearly topic it seems..as an outsider and UM fan, i'd love for ND to join the bigten...i'm aware of all the past gripes and grudges, and also how fierce the wish is for ND to remain independent...with the pending mediation in House V. NCAA likely to result in some sort of "revenue sharing", any thoughts or insights on if this is the not so gentle nudge to push ND into a conference?....most pundits are calculating that a settlement agreement could cost each P5 athletic department a minimum of 30 million a year right off the top of their budget for player compensation..
Just curious. Why would you love ND to join the big ten? Knowing the past gripes and grudges and our fierce desire to remain independent, why bother to come here with a hypothetical “gentle nudge” question?
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That’s a good point but I’d prefer to play for the bye in the conference championship game rather than have to win four straight true playoff games. I’d imagine that some of those teams that lose the conference championship will still get into the playoffs.
If you are good enough you also get the 5 seed and you play the 12 seed which will likely be the group of 5 team, then you play the 4 seed, the weakest of all the conf champs

It's not all bad
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They also get an extra week of rest without having to play in a conference championship game. So they get rest and avoid injuries.

It's not all a disadvantage
That’s a good point but I’d prefer to play for the bye in the conference championship game rather than have to win four straight true playoff games. I’d imagine that some of those teams that lose the conference championship will still get into the playoffs.

ND and House V. NCAA

Do we know what the format is for the 2026 playoffs and beyond?

The current format has ND at a disadvantage in that ND can’t obtain a bye. I don’t know if that would make me want to join a conference, but ND is at a clear competitive disadvantage right now.
They also get an extra week of rest without having to play in a conference championship game. So they get rest and avoid injuries.

It's not all a disadvantage

ND and House V. NCAA

So what is the realistic argument FOR ND to join a conference? I am obviously biased as an ND fan, and I can't see a logical reason for joining a conference. What are some talking points from the talking heads on this?
Do we know what the format is for the 2026 playoffs and beyond?

The current format has ND at a disadvantage in that ND can’t obtain a bye. I don’t know if that would make me want to join a conference, but ND is at a clear competitive disadvantage right now.

ND and House V. NCAA

talk of ND joining a conference is a yearly topic it seems..as an outsider and UM fan, i'd love for ND to join the bigten...i'm aware of all the past gripes and grudges, and also how fierce the wish is for ND to remain independent...with the pending mediation in House V. NCAA likely to result in some sort of "revenue sharing", any thoughts or insights on if this is the not so gentle nudge to push ND into a conference?....most pundits are calculating that a settlement agreement could cost each P5 athletic department a minimum of 30 million a year right off the top of their budget for player compensation..
There’s no upside to joining the big 10 and plenty of downside, especially with the college playoffs being expanded to 12 teams

ND Ranked No. 5 in The Athletic's Post-Spring Rankings

Happens in other sports all the time.

Trouble is, in CFB it's going head to head with a century-old empahsis on PURE WINNING PERCENTAGE which itself was the natural outcome of scores of teams, tens of conferences and a relatively small number of in-season games.

Once it's all placed in a neat, formalized, smaller-sized, conference-oriented structure, it's no longer purely a fight among the teams with the best winning percentages.

In a way, it's like moving from PLEBESCITE DEMOCRACY to the ELECTORAL COLLEGE. You're competing within a smaller field for a localized ELIGIBILITY TICKET rather than against the entire field.

And of course this complicates things for ND to a certain extent as it has CHOSEN -- given its empahsis on its own IDENTITY -- to remain an ANOMALY within this more tightly RULES-BOUND, more FORMALIZED structure.

But then, ND still seems to have enough HEFT to manage these sorts of CARVE-OUTS.
All the P4 conferences have dropped their divisions as of 2024, so the days of an 8-4 Purdue team making the Big Ten CCG, for example, are probably over. They'll likely have two highly-ranked teams playing in most of these conference championships now.

Although I suppose the Big 12, lacking any marquee programs anymore, could end up with a champion outside the top 12.
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talk of ND joining a conference is a yearly topic it seems..as an outsider and UM fan, i'd love for ND to join the bigten...i'm aware of all the past gripes and grudges, and also how fierce the wish is for ND to remain independent...with the pending mediation in House V. NCAA likely to result in some sort of "revenue sharing", any thoughts or insights on if this is the not so gentle nudge to push ND into a conference?....most pundits are calculating that a settlement agreement could cost each P5 athletic department a minimum of 30 million a year right off the top of their budget for player compensation..
No, you are not. Or you wouldn't be raising this issue..

ND and House V. NCAA

talk of ND joining a conference is a yearly topic it seems..as an outsider and UM fan, i'd love for ND to join the bigten...i'm aware of all the past gripes and grudges, and also how fierce the wish is for ND to remain independent...with the pending mediation in House V. NCAA likely to result in some sort of "revenue sharing", any thoughts or insights on if this is the not so gentle nudge to push ND into a conference?....most pundits are calculating that a settlement agreement could cost each P5 athletic department a minimum of 30 million a year right off the top of their budget for player compensation..
Dude, the Notre Dame Administration has zero interest in the Big 10. Never has.
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talk of ND joining a conference is a yearly topic it seems..as an outsider and UM fan, i'd love for ND to join the bigten...i'm aware of all the past gripes and grudges, and also how fierce the wish is for ND to remain independent...with the pending mediation in House V. NCAA likely to result in some sort of "revenue sharing", any thoughts or insights on if this is the not so gentle nudge to push ND into a conference?....most pundits are calculating that a settlement agreement could cost each P5 athletic department a minimum of 30 million a year right off the top of their budget for player compensation..
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