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Well kiss ND's playoff chances goodbye...

Not so fast. If we ran the table, we'd have a chance. It would require a lot of upsets like Georgia's today, though. Some years there are a lot of them.
 
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Just stop, that is so not true at all. Why don't you just grab a beer and watch some games and do us all a favor and RELAX.

This is going to be the theme of the day by so many others on here, it's going to be so obnoxious. The football IQ on this page is close to zero, so just stop.
 
Not gonna freak out if they end up 5-7 range and get to play in a NY6 bowl. Just win the damn bowl and that’s an excellent season
 
GA may well lose again, not impressed. Oklahoma win was a more significant blow . Any way you slice, ND will need help even if they win out convincingly. Just win baby
 
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after the Georgia loss.
It actually takes Georgia out of the playoffs. They’ll likely have 2-3 losses now. If they knock off Bama or LSU that will help us. Clemson is a lock. Oklahoma needs a loss to a mediocre team. Hope Michigan can finally upset the Buckeyes. There are paths to the playoffs but nobody can be too upset. If ND belonged they’d have beaten GA.
 
GA may well lose again, not impressed. Oklahoma win was a more significant blow . Any way you slice, ND will need help even if they win out convincingly. Just win baby

UGA loss was worse for us. Texas and OU splitting with Texas winning in the CCG is better than Texas winning this one and OU getting them back like last year.

At this point, I think our expectations should be to make a NY6 bowl and if we sneak back into the playoffs that’s great.
 
It actually takes Georgia out of the playoffs. They’ll likely have 2-3 losses now. If they knock off Bama or LSU that will help us. Clemson is a lock. Oklahoma needs a loss to a mediocre team. Hope Michigan can finally upset the Buckeyes. There are paths to the playoffs but nobody can be too upset. If ND belonged they’d have beaten GA.

If Georgia wins the SEC, they’ll still get in. This makes it impossible for them to get in without winning the conference now though.
 
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If it comes down to ND and Georgia with one loss the head to head is a killer. But GA might lose again before all said and done. ND Is looking at a NY6 game.
 
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If you spend time worrying about things you have ZERO control over, you will end up being controlled by the very things you're worrying about...

"Coach Speak" has been around forever, because it is bullet proof air tight common sense..The only thing ND Football needs to concern itself with is winning the next game on the schedule. The rest of speculation is internet fodder and hot air.
 
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Any loss by a team above us helps. And if it has to be UGA, we'd prefer they not lose to the highly ranked teams.

UVA flopping against lol Miami hurt more. We could end without a quality win.
 
Any loss by a team above us helps. And if it has to be UGA, we'd prefer they not lose to the highly ranked teams.

UVA flopping against lol Miami hurt more. We could end without a quality win.

Agree,
 
If ND loses one more game, they’re out.

Hence they control their own destiny, they have to win out.

That’s not what control your own destiny means. It means if we win out all other results are meaningless, we don’t need help from any other teams. There are scenarios where we win out and don’t make the playoff, ergo we don’t control our own destiny.
 
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That’s not what control your own destiny means. It means if we win out all other results are meaningless, we don’t need help from any other teams. There are scenarios where we win out and don’t make the playoff, ergo we don’t control our own destiny.

It means that only ND has the power to win out and finish 11-1.

ND can’t control anything outside of their schedule and others not on ND’s schedule can’t control anything that ND does.
 
Georgia will get a 2nd loss for sure. Thats our only chance of getting in. Only 1 sec team gets in. Georgia wasnt beating alabama or lsu in sec championship game anyway. They arent beating them. So 2 sec teams would have gotten in if they were undefeated. Now we can get in over Georgia if they have 2 losses. They may get a 2nd loss before sec title game and 100% theyd be out. The more teams with 2 losses the better chance we have. Sec only getting 1 team is our best chance
 
Georgia will get a 2nd loss for sure. Thats our only chance of getting in. Only 1 sec team gets in. Georgia wasnt beating alabama or lsu in sec championship game anyway. They arent beating them. So 2 sec teams would have gotten in if they were undefeated. Now we can get in over Georgia if they have 2 losses. They may get a 2nd loss before sec title game and 100% theyd be out. The more teams with 2 losses the better chance we have. Sec only getting 1 team is our best chance

ND has to win out and that’s no easy task.
 
If ND loses one more game, they’re out.

Hence they control their own destiny, they have to win out.

How obtuse can you be? Controlling one's own destiny means that if ND wins the rest of its games, it is in the playoff. There are many scenarios where an 11-1 ND team does not make the playoff. So no, ND does not control its own destiny.
 
If we win out, it’ll be a close call. I can definitely see a 1 loss Wisc, OSU, OU, FL, UGA, LSU, Ala jumping us. They’ll all have better wins than us if they keep winning.
 
If we win out, it’ll be a close call. I can definitely see a 1 loss Wisc, OSU, OU, FL, UGA, LSU, Ala jumping us. They’ll all have better wins than us if they keep winning.
ND on a 9 game winning streak will carry some clout but they would definitely need help. Texas beating an undefeated Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship game would help. Hard to see a PAC 12 team making it.
 
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ND on a 9 game winning streak will carry some clout but they would definitely need help. Texas beating an undefeated Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship game would help. Hard to see a PAC 12 team making it.
There won't be a Pac-12 team but, there is a very good chance there will be 2 SEC teams, there will be a Big 10, a Big 12 and an ACC.
 
We arent a playoff caliber team this year. Hopefully we get a good bowl with a winnable opponent to get our recruiting mojo moving.
 
We arent a playoff caliber team this year. Hopefully we get a good bowl with a winnable opponent to get our recruiting mojo moving.

The NY6 options are interesting this year because the non-playoff games have a lot of conference tie-ins. We could play an ACC team (probably Wake or UVa again at this point) in the orange bowl or probably the group of five representative in the Cotton Bowl.
 
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