Tyler Buchner To Alabama.
- Thread starter sjb75
- Start date
It's going to be interesting to see if he wins the starting job. He's either going prove the critics on this board wrong or right.
I can't believe Rees is willing to fall on the sword for Buchner. If Buchner starts and the wheels come off on offense, Rees will be the target of the wrath the fans and media in Tuscaloosa will bring down on him.
I can't believe Rees is willing to fall on the sword for Buchner. If Buchner starts and the wheels come off on offense, Rees will be the target of the wrath the fans and media in Tuscaloosa will bring down on him.
It’s interesting that the same man (Rees) who just recruited Buchner to Bama, recruited Sam Hartman to replace him a couple months ago.
Happy for Tyler and hope he does well. I’m a bit surprised he wants to play for Rees too due to him bringing Sam to ND, but he’s probably swallowing his pride to play for Saban. Smart move.
Happy for Tyler and hope he does well. I’m a bit surprised he wants to play for Rees too due to him bringing Sam to ND, but he’s probably swallowing his pride to play for Saban. Smart move.
Alabama has no one on their QB depth chart that has 50 starts and the experience of Sam Hartman. No one even close.
I don't know about that, do you have any proof of that? That brining in SH was Rees' baby, and was his idea?
The previous season, when TB and Pyne were both a year younger and sorely short on QB experience, we didn't bring one in, and the word on the street was that it was Rees' insistence not to do so. And so maybe the decision to pursue a transfer QB for '23 that resulted in SH was actually MF's idea.
Anyway, this is frickin' awesome. I predict he wins the job and is the opening day starter against Texas....
I think ND fans will finally get to see what happens when you take a top 100 overall prospect that ND fans think is 'failed' (Buchner) and surround him with high 4 star & above talent (like Alabama has)
It'll be like night and day just how much better/explosive he looks (granted he wins the job)
It'll be like night and day just how much better/explosive he looks (granted he wins the job)
Your thought process is the offensive coordinator and lead recruiter for quarterbacks did not want to bring in the top quarterback in the transfer portal? Lol
So bringing in Sam to replace Tyler was purely Freeman’s idea (defensive minded head coach) and Rees was dead set on Tyler as the starter? Makes a lot of sense…. Haha
It was widely reported that Hartman wanted ND in the first place because of Rees, that’s why people were concerned Sam would leave for Bama. The truth is Rees would take Hartman over Buchner right now (again).
Last edited:
The one advantage Tyler has is that he already knows Tommy’s playbook.
Apparently he felt that way the season before, and that's when we definitely could have used one, and yet we didn't take one and again the talk was it was on TR's say-so. So maybe MF said I let TR have his way last time, when I was a brand new HC just finding his feet. And this time I want a transfer QB, it's my ass that's on the line, and so we're getting one....
Sounds reasonable to me. Don't know if it's the truth or not, but it's definitely reasonable. I never heard any reports that SH picked ND on account of getting to play for Rees. And even if he did say that, that doesn't mean the whole endeavor was Rees' idea to begin with.
So unless you have some motherfckin' hard evidence, since it appears you're going to be a little bitch about this, why don't you back the F off? If all you're basing your argument on is your own personal judgement. When it comes to judgement calls I'll stick with my own, thank you....
I need evidence that the quarterback recruiter and offensive coordinator wanted the top transfer to come to ND? Even after the QB signed and came to ND?? Haha Evidence is there bud.
It’s funny you ask me to “provide evidence” when you have an entire story made up about why Tommy didn’t want Hartman. Zero evidence. Just baseless claims that make no sense that backup your terrible opinion.
I don’t even need to use the language you did. Your posts prove your ignorance.
Yes, you do. Like I said, if all you're basing your claims on is your own dumbfck version of common sense, and really you're just talking out of your ass, then you need to at least acknowledge that. And short of that, I want bona fide proof.
And I never made up anything, I suggested the very reasonable possibility. TRees is not the coach of ND football, MF is. It's his team, it's his ass, and any decision as weighty as that would be his to make, and not punk-ass Tommy Rees. Rees would be in the role of an adviser or aide de camp.
Anyway, sorry to take a tone, you were just pissing me off....
....can't compete with Bama on the field.....maybe we can erode them from within......
If you dropped the last paragraph of just about every post, you might find yourself having more productive conversations on this board.
I, for one, think your idea that it was Freeman's idea to bring in Hartman may have some merit. After all, Tommy Rees who a year earlier was gungho on staying, abruptly leaves for Alabama. So maybe Freeman and Rees didn't mesh all that well. Sounds plausible.
He will "win" the job. Because Rees is there. Dude is not a cultural fit at a place like Bama. I'm interested to see how the room reacts to his presence. My guess is he will be replaced by October either through injury or yanked for the guy who backed up Young in 2022.
Here are the Bama QBs stats from their spring game. Going against Alabama's defense. And learning a new scheme. TIFWIW.
Milroe completed 19-of-37 passes for 245 yards in last Saturday’s spring game, including two touchdowns and two interceptions. He was sacked seven times and ran for a 35-yard touchdown. Simpson went 12-of-26 for 155 yards and one interception.
Alabama will now have 5 QBs on scholarship.
Milroe completed 19-of-37 passes for 245 yards in last Saturday’s spring game, including two touchdowns and two interceptions. He was sacked seven times and ran for a 35-yard touchdown. Simpson went 12-of-26 for 155 yards and one interception.
Alabama will now have 5 QBs on scholarship.
Rees is the OC, unless Buchner gets hurt, he's going to be the starter. Take it to the bank.
No doubt in my mind Buchner will start at least this coming season.
Rees is the OC, was Buchner's QB coach and OC for 2 years. Buchner already knows the playbook, the other QB's are having to learn it.
I tend to agree with your assessment. The talent at Alabama is on another level compared to what Buchner had at ND. Buchner will excel if he stays healthy.
Well, this will be an interesting way to see the overall impact of being at ND vs being at Alabama.
The ND side is worried they're both going to go down there and look really good and show how far behind ND truly is, the Alabama side is worried they're getting ND talent that isn't good enough to meet the Alabama expectations.
If you're truly an ND fan, you should hope they both do great down there. Things like that need to happen.
And yes, he'll obviously be the starter.
The ND side is worried they're both going to go down there and look really good and show how far behind ND truly is, the Alabama side is worried they're getting ND talent that isn't good enough to meet the Alabama expectations.
If you're truly an ND fan, you should hope they both do great down there. Things like that need to happen.
And yes, he'll obviously be the starter.
Yeah, but they have 4 other highly touted QBs on their roster, one of which threw for 245 yds in their spring game, which is a lot more than Buchner threw for last Saturday. And Saban's the head coach, and will have final say over who starts.
If the assessment is that Buchner did not excel at ND due to a lack of talent around him, then why would Sam Hartman excel?
I know it’s just a spring game, but why was there such a massive difference in the performances between both QBs? If our QBs struggle because ND doesn’t have the talent, than all the QBs should struggle. Hartman excelled. Truly looked like they were running different offenses.
Milroe will be gone and rumors were he and family were shopping around. So that left saban with untested Simpson and 2 true fr. He needed a qb
Rees s the OC, has coached Buchner for 2+ years, Buchner knows the playbook, the others are still learning it. I can guarantee Buchner starts the season, unless of course he gets injured.
Hartman has 4 years of experience over the rest of the QB's, with MEANINGFUL playing time.
If Hartman was so great, he'd be on the NFL draft board instead of opting in for a 6th year in college. Let that sink in for a moment. Even Book opted out of a 6th year.
Again, let's see how Hartman does when he goes against a defense in a real game. I'm not saying Hartman will stink up the joint, but let's not put too much meaning into a scrimmage where the coaches and players are trying to avoid full contact and injuries.
Last year, Hartman had 337 yds and 6 TDs against Clemson. That's the same Clemson team our offense scored 21 points on. So he's proven himself against good teams before. He'll be our best QB since Brady Quinn IMO.
Way off or you just don't understand the inner workings of a major college football program.
I agree, it’s just a spring game. No reason to start placing Heisman bets.
But I simply don’t believe Buchner’s struggles were due to a lack of surrounding talent. Him refusing to go through his progressions and throwing into the hands of the defense doesn’t have anything to do with surrounding talent.
I will be cheering for him at Bama, but any real success we see there will be newfound success. The truth is, at ND he lost to Marshall and his “best game” he still threw 3 picks.
Most top rated QBs out of high school end up being overrated. Go look at the class from 4 years ago, odds are the majority of the top 20 QBs aren’t too successful, and a few Crown Jewels. That’s just recruiting. A handful of ND fans refuse to believe Tyler may be among that majority.
If you think Rees will be the " decision maker " there on who plays after being there less than a year you're mistaken.
Hardly. He'll have to earn it. You're giving Rees way too much clout for being there such a short time. Coach will make the call, like he always does.
