Good review and correct. Happy to get the W. When I watched the SC QB a few weeks ago I had thoughts of him giving the defense trouble and he did. They have something special in that guy. Very disappointed in our defense the second half. They have to be better but we did get the W.
That was a pathetic second half
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Good review and correct. Happy to get the W. When I watched the SC QB a few weeks ago I had thoughts of him giving the defense trouble and he did. They have something special in that guy. Very disappointed in our defense the second half. They have to be better but we did get the W.
ND was 21 points better than SC with a competent game plan.
You can stay in your happy place pretending you just whipped the greastest team in football; so who is delusional?
I never expected to bury this usc team I’m not sure we should have thought we were supposed to. Now going up 20-3 to start the second half maybe changed things a bit but with their wrs and Crawford hurt in our secondary I just never felt comfortable. I also wonder what would have become of this game if that kickoff return goes for a td. That can’t happen.
Easy there sparky, first ND was a 10.5 point favorite, not 21. Then please link where I said usc was the best team in college football? I'm happy we won, anytime yiu can do that with your top rival it's a good day. Why don't you just go be a Georgia fan. Oh wait they just lost at home to a 2-3 team. Clemson struggled against Wake Forest and didnt cover the spread. We won, take your meds, relax and enjoy the win Geesh!
I watch SC very closely. Current roster has spotty talent but it is a poor
“team”. I say team because football is a team game and SC is woefully coached. The ND team I saw vs UGA beats SC by 4 TDs!
Anyone who actually follow college football knows you can not have a perfect week evey week. Also, it's about match ups and schemes. Ask Georgia it happens. Again relax we won not playing our d best.
And I'm the delusional one lol. Even the elite teams struggle against inferior talent, even much less than usc, but they find ways to win even on bad days. I played college level tennis. Although not a team sport even with the best preparation you have off days. But winning even on your off days speaks volumes of your character. But please continue on your quest. Obviously you're on a mission and no amount of logic will divert you lol. Post On!
The season is ONLY halfway over, unbeaten teams may not be unbeaten at season’s end.
Lots of football ahead of us.
ND’s mission is to win out
They are not a bad team. They already beat a top 14 team this year. Theyve played games with their backup qb and 3rd string qb. They're 3 and 3 with a difficult schedule and backup qbs. They are much better this year
Good point. But....... wouldn’t you say that Young shouldn’t have fumbled at all. He was headed for a score and the ball came out. So , yes ND didn’t counter SC’s attack . I do agree with you on that. However, I do think it was by design. Once they had the lead, I feel they were playing cautiously. Personally, I hate that philosophy. If you look at the game you would see ND had some chances to expand on their lead but failed to do so. In the end, like I said, they weathered the “ storm” and won. Now, do I think there are 5 or 6 teams better than them ? I do. So I’m realistic about how they play. With that said, it is college football and you never know. I’m just really happy they won. It sure as hell beats losing. Go Irish !!
I’ve seen SC also. They have played poorly and uninspired in some games. But you knew they were coming to play yesterday. They looked like a determined group especially in the second half. I don’t disagree they had some issues defensively. They also had some good plays as well. But if people feel they played poorly, that’s fine. If that’s the case, think about this. It wasn’t their best game and yet they still won. That says a lot about this team.
the player’s played the plan fine but my criticism is that was one flawed approach to beating SC! ND was a much better team, but it was not evident in the 2nd half. As to coaching, it was really not what Helton did, but more so what ND did (or did not do).
I think their OC got a bead on what ND was doing defensively and found a way to always get slovis to find the one elite wr in single coverage. Lea never adjusted like I said earlier in the thread. I don’t necessarily blame him though when you re-form your D for an exotic team for one week you sort of limit your options. And it worked in the first half. They were kinda pot committed to the schemes.
Exactly. that was a very poor showing by the D in the second half. not sure what the hell Clark Lea was doing or NOT doing at that point. Our players were literally standing around they were so tired. Didn't even see rotation of players like normal.. at least I don't think. SC never even thought of punting in the second half. Some Irish fans think that's OK huh? WOW.
better talent than ND? talk about delusional. NO, they don't. Irish should have buried their asses when they had a chance.
absolutely right. ND was 21 points better at least. 20-3 should have laid it on them by 35+ . SC had no business hanging around in the second half. Onside kick?! really? Jesus
Agree, he shouldn’t have fumbled, but cool to cold weather makes the ball slippery.
The season is only at the halfway mark.
A lot can happen in the second half, we just have one mission, to win out.
There was a 4.5 minute differential in TOP in the first half.
When you only rush 3 linemen it leads to fatigue.
Do you even follow college football? USC has better ranked recruiting year in and year out. For the past four years USC has 11 5 stars compared to our 2. Overall talent it's hands down USC and it's not even close.
WAA-WAH-fire brian Kelly. BOO-HOO you're banned
SC was supposed to be vulnerable on the Oline. I saw them pass protect all night unless we blitzed more men then they had. The Trojan run blocking was a mixed bag but they got some big ones well discussed here.
For us it's not even halfway because of an unbalanced schedule. We've played 4 power teams, 2 decisively + 2 closely, with lots of rest. We're now going to play 6 power teams in a row without a BYE. I bet some of them have byes before us. It will probably be harder to win out. (yes I count Navy)
5 blocking 3
and 1 SC starter was out. ND never brought the consistent pressure
I-recall early on-a LB blitzed and got to the QB for a sack. Slovis had too much
time to wait for his excellent WR’s to come open. Strategical blunder.
I never said that.
But since you’re such an expert, tell us, who had more playing time:
1. Starting DL
2. 2nd team DL
3. 3rd team DL
You didn’t answer the question!
You avoided answering the question with a feeble attempt to divert and deflect.
You told us, you’re an expert, so answer the question.
Trust me, if there were internet message boards back then with the exception of the 88 season the same knuckle heads calling for Kelly's ass would have been there calling for Lou's. Stupid transcends time lol.
This was the template that everyone who's beat USC this year. Oh, guess what, it worked again!! Doesn't it ever get old being schooled by everyone on the board. Oh as far as talent, USC has elite talent (better than ND's), just poor coaching.
