OT: I am now done with the NFL
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I don't think they did
I double posted by accident and couldn't delete it
I think they are on the other one sorry
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Oh ok my friend, keep up the good fight. This kneeling protest is so wrong in so many ways.
I'm disgusted by what the NFL players have done today. There are better ways to protest things without disrespecting the flag and the country.
I don't know what Kaepernick and all the others think they're going to accomplish by disrespecting the flag. They'll do nothing to further their cause (whatever their cause is, I don't even know exactly).
I don't know what Kaepernick and all the others think they're going to accomplish by disrespecting the flag. They'll do nothing to further their cause (whatever their cause is, I don't even know exactly).
Umm....they're against racism. Or something like that. I myself am a big fan of racism actually. So I suppose they are protesting people like me maybe? Oh, also cops are pigs and they sometimes can be meanie heads.
Fortunately, their magical knees should be able to solve all that.
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Kneeling for the national anthem does not disrespect our flag or our country. The Confederate flag and the nazi flag disrespect our flag and our country! The Confederacy and nazi Germany were both wartime enemies of the United States of America. I served so that all would have the right to peacefully protest in the manner they see fit. If you don't watch that's fine but don't deny the legitimate protest of another.
I pay 30% in income tax and other people I know pay nothing. That is demonstrable evidence of inequality. Should I go in the street and burn the American flag in protest? Would you consider that the highly American thing to do? I mean, it's expressing my freedom of speech after all.
Nobody is denying it.
But actions do have ramifications!
Trump stating that the players doing should be fired. It was his opinion on the matter.
Whether an NFL owner wants to do that is his choice as well and nobody can say a word about it.
The very amendment the kneelers point to that protect them is the very same one an owner can exercise with zero explanation. If firing a player is his form of speech, oh well.
The one word that usually doesn't come up enough with these self centered idiots is no class.
These people have absolutely no class.
Say what you want about Jerry Jones but he will not have someone disrespecting his organization and fans by being selfish.
That's all this move is. More selfish look at me idiotic horseshit.
You are correct. This is simple. Freedom of speech and expressing one's opinion is a two-way street. Some people act like these protesters can say and do whatever they want without consequence, and fans have to shut the Hell up and like it.
Short term they don't care. It's out of sight and out of mind. The players got paid last week so it doesn't matter. They know direct deposit will happen on Monday whether they kneel or not.
What do they care? They don't.
They made their trendy statement. They very owner who is paying them grotesque sums of money is left with a pisses off fan base, ticket sales sliding, bad PR, etc.
But hey...the athlete got paid and has the camera..so look at me kneeling.
****ing stupid bastards!
Give it a shot. Suppose a Republican athlete knelt to protest abortion? One thing I've noticed since this whole thing broke is the right doesn't protest.
Our troops fought for American ideals, like Freedom of Religion, and now we have a movement to prevent an entire sect from practicing. And some would like elimination of probably a few more
They fought for the priveledge of choosing our leaders, yet even on a good day about one third of us don't vote. Sometimes 80% stay home
They sacrificed so that we can question our leaders yet when we do that today the "leader" has us beaten up
Stay respectful all
They will care when only half the stadium fills up and TV ratings plummet because people are sick of politics in sports. Hit them where it counts : in the pocketbook. Then they can, upon reflection, wonder whether or not participating in foolishness and following a dumb jock as if he was some brilliant activist (Kaepernick) was such a great idea.
More like clueless
He probably had a meltdown when Berkeley allowed Ben Shapiro to speak there
Make no mistake. The protest is not about the flag it is about minorities being dispraproportionately victimized in this country.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
They are mostly being victimized by other minorities.
You DONT stand to a foreign flag on foreign soil directly after disrespecting yours.
If they were so concerned they would go in then communities and try to make a difference.
I imagine 90% of them don't even live in those communities anymore what does that tell you, and why do you think that is?
How do you know this exactly? Are you a conspiracy theorist?
When you can send out a tweet or 2 and cost your adversary 200 million dollars (which is the estimate for the NFL losses from the protests) that constitutes curb stomping your adversary. It cost POTUS nothing and he commands an army of 62 million consumers.
I hope next week the NFL loses 400 million. I know myself and a hand full of my friends are not watching the NFL. And better yet not watching espn.
I suggest you go to your employer and stage a protest for your political beliefs and see how it goes. No one attends these events to get the athletes political views. However, if they choose to alienate a larger portion of their customers by sharing said views by using this method to insult them, then expect a backlash and for people to vote with their wallet. It is a terrible move by the NFL to allow this.
And yet the NFL fell for it.. Seriously this has been an issue since way before a Trump became president. Trump is just stating what many feel about this issue. It's an in your face insult.
The NFL is just another part of the corporate globalist elites that have an agenda to push through that doesn't include most of us. So the NFL like the rest assume they can trash POTUS with impunity like is done within their own echo chambers and the msm and espn. Will see how it plays out, but it can't be good to alienate 62 million folks.
Especially when a majority of their customer base is blue collar joes who are more likely to have either served in the Amed Forces or have children that serve. This is a really bad business decision on their part.
Trump's had it in for NFL since 1984. These protests give him a valid reason to rail against the league and generate opposition. He can hide behind the anthem issue while continuing a feud that's based on another conflict
There is probably some truth to that, but the opposition to the kneelers is well known.
Trump is not playing patriotic out of the blue.
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Pre 2009 no team was on the sideline for the national anthem. If the NFL does anything they will revert back to this.
DIP, I just got back from Long Beach NY. The town is a bastion of NYPD, FDNY and other blue collar grunts. They host a wounded warriors project every year. Brother, The NFL is done. Folks in the bars turn these millionaires off! I cancelled my NFL red zone , ESPN and NFL Network channels. Bailing on Gmen vs SD game @ met life. I love the NFL but can no longer support these miscreants. Millionaires based on a Captilism! Good news, I'll save a few bucks on the SB Squares. Not gonna lie it's gonna be tough sledding at first. September & October two great sports months. MLB winding into the post season. CFB on Saturday & NFL on Sundays.
Written by someone who si unable to review data in an unbiased manner. You can argue degrees of inequality, but not the fact of inequality.
Bingo! Because everyone is doing the wrong thing does not make it right.
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Like I said it was a bitter pill for me, but what the Jaguars did was the final straw.
I very much enjoyed my time tailgating. Talking about the college games the day before, but no those days are gone.
I still have college ball, NASCAR, and hunting though, but I will miss the game day ritual the week I would go
It is their prerogative, but in the short term most would find it the cowards way out to resolving the issue. It's the equivalent to the school "zero tolerance" policy on fighting where they don't gave to determine who is responsible.
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