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The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame
Reality continues to elude you. Coach Saban is not "unemployed ", hes doing exactly what he wants to be doing at this point in his life. We should all have it so good.
 
Nick is not coming back but as a good Catholic I think he should come back to try and rescue ND. Maybe he can just be a co coach with Marcus.....a mentor!
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame

Another totally idiotic post by this idiot. Neither Saban nor Meyer will ever coach at ND.
 
Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
 
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The only that will determine anything is how the rest of the season plays out. I think it is fair to say ND was way over hyped and losing to NIU proved that. This team may have talent. Then again maybe not as good as advertised. That is why the loss to a clearly inferior opponent is hard to believe. This teams has big issues and I do not see it getting fixed this year
 
Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
It's not.
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame
Like all those zeros Prime is getting? How is that working out…???
 
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Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
Yea ND is not important, they just set an attendance record at Kyle Field and had a TV ratings bonanza for that game in week 1. Yea ND isn't important, keep telling yourself that.
 
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Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
Last NC, 1988. Nuff said.
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame
Well, for that matter, so are Coaches Rockne and Leahy, along with Holtz.

The chances of them coming are about the same as the two you mentioned.
 
Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
I don't know man .. i think under the right leadership Urban Meyer or Nick Saban would love to come to ND and awake a sleeping monster and go down in history as the best ever.

ND is a revenue leader already with mediocre results spanning 2 decades; can you imagine if one of these coaches replicated their run at previous stops at Notre Dame ?
 
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I don't know man .. i think under the right leadership Urban Meyer or Nick Saban would love to come to ND and awake a sleeping monster and go down in history as the best ever.

ND is a revenue leader now, can you imagine if one of these coaches replicated their runs at other places?

Preposterous. Get it through your thick skull. It's not going to happen. Neither will ever coach at ND.
 
Preposterous. Get it through your thick skull. It's not going to happen. Neither will ever coach at ND.
Why do you hate the prospect of ND being the #1 program in college football again so much?
 
Why do you hate the prospect of ND being the #1 program in college football again so much?

You're a fool. You have grandiose ideas of ND snapping its fingers and hiring Knute Rockne to rise up from the grave and coach the team to a national championship.
Nick Saban is 73 years old. He has had his run. No way is he coming to ND at his age.
ND would never hire Urban Meyer due to his baggage. I know that you would gladly ignore the problems that follow Meyer everywhere, but ND will not.
You have no understanding at all about how ND runs. You think ND is a football team which happens to be attached to a university. You have repeatedly indicated that the football program is all important and that it should control everything else at ND. You are dead wrong.
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame



Listen to Wayne Gretzky and go to where the hockey puck is going, not where it was.

Saban and Meyer are done. The easier money has been made with them. I doubt at their age they have the passion and energy to do anything but ride their fame and cash checks.

;)

ND does need a championship coach. They obviously are younger ones. With some resume...at least HC experience.
 
You're a fool. You have grandiose ideas of ND snapping its fingers and hiring Knute Rockne to rise up from the grave and coach the team to a national championship.
Nick Saban is 73 years old. He has had his run. No way is he coming to ND at his age.
ND would never hire Urban Meyer due to his baggage. I know that you would gladly ignore the problems that follow Meyer everywhere, but ND will not.
You have no understanding at all about how ND runs. You think ND is a football team which happens to be attached to a university. You have repeatedly indicated that the football program is all important and that it should control everything else at ND. You are dead wrong.


I still say becoming elite and being a great academic university not compromising its quality and ideals is possible for ND.

As always, I could be wrong, but I think having an easy path to an easy degree program would be a tipping point. Allowing ND to get top players in depth.

I say it year after year: ND actually would be doing a great social good, properly stewarding naive, poor, young athletes into a living after football. Like it or not, for whatever standards ND has, it plays in an NCAA that is very dirty...absolutely perpetuating it, not to mention making good money off it in the process.
 
I say it year after year: ND actually would be doing a great social good, properly stewarding naive, poor, young athletes into a living after football. Like it or not, for whatever standards ND has, it plays in an NCAA that is very dirty...absolutely perpetuating it, not to mention making good money off it in the process.
i think the narrative that all the best athletes are uneducated ignorant thugs is incorrect.

i think the top 100 prospects these days is full of kids from middle class families/professional families who can afford private coaching and tutoring, who specialize early, is the norm these days

ND should be cleaning up on these top 100 prospects given just how much the institution has to offer academically

I think most prospects are well aware of the limited shelf life of a pro football player, and understand how much a good education can be of value to them post football-career.
 
I still say becoming elite and being a great academic university not compromising its quality and ideals is possible for ND.

As always, I could be wrong, but I think having an easy path to an easy degree program would be a tipping point. Allowing ND to get top players in depth.

I say it year after year: ND actually would be doing a great social good, properly stewarding naive, poor, young athletes into a living after football. Like it or not, for whatever standards ND has, it plays in an NCAA that is very dirty...absolutely perpetuating it, not to mention making good money off it in the process.
I absolutely agree that having a quality academic institution and a championship football team are not mutually exclusive. I cannot, however, get on board with your suggestion that ND should have an "easy degree program." There are degree programs at ND now which are less than rigorously demanding. Players know what classes to take if they want to take them.
 
The only thing keeping these guys unemployed is the amount of zeros at the end of a contract and as we all know Notre Dame has lots of zeros in their bank account

I wonder how diligently Pete B is working behind the scenes to recruit and sign a championship head coach here to Notre Dame
I’m not trying to be impolite, but you’re a moron

Notre Dame and Marcus Freeman have a contract

When you have a contract, you honor it, you don’t bail on that contract because you lost
A game you were favored to win
 
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I absolutely agree that having a quality academic institution and a championship football team are not mutually exclusive. I cannot, however, get on board with your suggestion that ND should have an "easy degree program." There are degree programs at ND now which are less than rigorously demanding. Players know what classes to take if they want to take them.
Yuppers!!! Class of 79 here, I took 1 of those jock type courses……Sociology of Sports…..probably the easiest A anyone could ask for. The class was loaded with football, basketball, hockey players, fencers, etc!!!
 
Yuppers!!! Class of 79 here, I took 1 of those jock type courses……Sociology of Sports…..probably the easiest A anyone could ask for. The class was loaded with football, basketball, hockey players, fencers, etc!!!

I was one year ahead of you. But yes, there were easy classes then and there are easy classes now.
 
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Yuppers!!! Class of 79 here, I took 1 of those jock type courses……Sociology of Sports…..probably the easiest A anyone could ask for. The class was loaded with football, basketball, hockey players, fencers, etc!!!
They didn’t have those classes on the early 60s, I’m sorry to hear that they dumbed down the curriculum
 
I still find it hard to believe ND would have the kind of major available at the football factory schools. Where you don't even have to be fully matriculated. I had cousins at ND and although there were EASIER classes, none were DAMN EASY...and there were no EASY majors.

I live in the Bay Area. Speak to Stanford graduates all the time. Including athletes. No way is there an EASY degree and no individual course is so easy that any clown can pass.

Sure, some classes are easy for a top student, but you still need some time effort, and, yeah, aptitude. The irony is many schools won't fail you because they want to keep earning your tuition money. The elite academic schools don't have that need, flush with endowments and demand.

Of course, I might be wrong and perhaps ND does have the EASY degrees? If so, how come they can't get the top skill athletes who need them?
 
Reality continues to elude you. Coach Saban is not "unemployed ", hes doing exactly what he wants to be doing at this point in his life. We should all have it so good.
We all want equity just like you 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Yea ND is not important, they just set an attendance record at Kyle Field and had a TV ratings bonanza for that game in week 1. Yea ND isn't important, keep telling yourself that.
ND $ is important. ND football is not. Have you watched the garbage teams ND has trotted out for 30 years?
 
I still find it hard to believe ND would have the kind of major available at the football factory schools. Where you don't even have to be fully matriculated. I had cousins at ND and although there were EASIER classes, none were DAMN EASY...and there were no EASY majors.

I live in the Bay Area. Speak to Stanford graduates all the time. Including athletes. No way is there an EASY degree and no individual course is so easy that any clown can pass.

Sure, some classes are easy for a top student, but you still need some time effort, and, yeah, aptitude. The irony is many schools won't fail you because they want to keep earning your tuition money. The elite academic schools don't have that need, flush with endowments and demand.

Of course, I might be wrong and perhaps ND does have the EASY degrees? If so, how come they can't get the top skill athletes who need them?
No, ND does not have "easy" majors. As an alum, I say ND should keep it that way. ND is, first and foremost, an academic institution.
 
Both of those guys would laugh if ND called them.

But the other part is valid; people seem to love talking about how big and important ND still is, how much money they bring in, and all that stuff. Money should NEVER be an object for the Football team and if anything they should be overpaying.
Why would they laugh?
 
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I still say becoming elite and being a great academic university not compromising its quality and ideals is possible for ND.

As always, I could be wrong, but I think having an easy path to an easy degree program would be a tipping point. Allowing ND to get top players in depth.

I say it year after year: ND actually would be doing a great social good, properly stewarding naive, poor, young athletes into a living after football. Like it or not, for whatever standards ND has, it plays in an NCAA that is very dirty...absolutely perpetuating it, not to mention making good money off it in the process.
I don't know about that. I think they're going to have to compromise their ideals. Which have no meaning anyway, it's just something that makes ND feel good about itself. It's difficult to think of anything that isn't morally hideous about ND's academic ideals. Quite frankly. So if they're committed to their fussy, self-aggrandizing academic elitism, then de-emphasize football. Or keep settling for whatever they have now. As if LSU or any other seat of higher learning are scumbags somehow for letting in these otherwise non-students in to play football. ND's so-called 'ideals' bring into question the very moral existence of higher education as a social institution. So it's fitting that it should cost them football glory, if they are going to be so unbending in their fealty to them.
 
I don't know about that. I think they're going to have to compromise their ideals. Which have no meaning anyway, it's just something that makes ND feel good about itself. It's difficult to think of anything that isn't morally hideous about ND's academic ideals. Quite frankly. So if they're committed to their fussy, self-aggrandizing academic elitism, then de-emphasize football. Or keep settling for whatever they have now. As if LSU or any other seat of higher learning are scumbags somehow for letting in these otherwise non-students in to play football. ND's so-called 'ideals' bring into question the very moral existence of higher education as a social institution. So it's fitting that it should cost them football glory, if they are going to be so unbending in their fealty to them.
From what I've heard over the years the fans way overstate the impact that academics has on the football product and that Notre Dame has already made a lot of pro-football changes to their admissions especially during the Brian Kelly era that has them competitive with most other prominent football programs

It pains me to say it but I honestly believe Notre Dame is simply getting beat right now by better football programs for reasons that are strictly football related.
 
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From what I've heard over the years the fans way overstate the impact that academics has on the football product and that Notre Dame has already made a lot of pro-football changes to their admissions especially during the Brian Kelly era that has them competitive with most other prominent football programs

It pains me to say it but I honestly believe Notre Dame is simply getting beat right now by better football programs for reasons that are strictly football related.
Alright, then. I guess there's not much they can do. They're out of wiggle room. I don't want them to sacrifice their academic 'ideals', but that's only because I prefer and am very used to ND having nice choir boys on the roster. Not because it's morally better. Even if ND totally let the football team cheat, and fixed their grades for them, half the roster at LSU simply would not fit at ND and wouldn't want to even be there. So it's cultural more than just always doing your homework.
 
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