Clearly this wasn’t close and an embarrassment but for hypothetical sake, if ND wins this game- do you see them sneaking into the playoff?
If ND beat Michigan
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What people need to ask themselves instead of doing these hypothetical examples is "is ND a top 4 team in college football?" Because that really gets down to the nuts and bolts of what it takes...And the answer to that question is obvious.
what part of “for hypothetical sake” didn’t you understand Cpt Obvious?
yes OP, I think ND would be in over OU.
Next post ..
If ND could switch their 85 man roster with Alabama would they be a better team in 2020?
Point being both are as unlikely so it's a silly hypothetical to speculate on.
This topic just feels like another one of those "BK has ND right there .. just need beat Michigan" .. and for whatever reason, after 10 years, it just drives me crazy.
If ND could switch their 85 man roster with Alabama would they be a better team in 2020?
Point being both are as unlikely so it's a silly hypothetical to speculate on.
This topic just feels like another one of those "BK has ND right there .. just need beat Michigan" .. and for whatever reason, after 10 years, it just drives me crazy.
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Hard to separate the two questions chase. Obviously you are right. If they’re not good enough to beat Michigan they are clearly not a top 4 team. The other question is still valid though. IMO they are still not top 4 even if they beat Michigan. Of course, you need to know I don’t think OK is top 4 either
Yet, every year there are “paper” Top4 teams that don’t get in. There’s no harm in wondering “what if.” It may not be your cup of tea, but it creates a different conversation that some people enjoy discussing.
Take a chill pill Clyde. I have no interest in getting in a pissing match over something stupid. If you want to clunk heads and mull this hypothetical over for the next month, then do so.
Thanks for giving your permission to discuss something hypothetical although I don’t think the OP needed it, Sally.
You youngsters like to start crap over the tiniest dumbest things. Take a look all over this board. This social media experiment is almost like middle school, minus the parent-teacher conference.
and you old crusty farts can’t stop coming into every discussion (on Social Media) to let everyone know you’re displeased with others thoughts/topics. Here’s a tip grandpa, turn off your computer if you don’t like it or start some posts about things you want to discuss. Now go yell at the neighborhood kids for being on your grass.
Oh yea and almost forgot, I would have LOVED ND to beat a 10-15th ranked Michigan team, and "slide" into the #4 spot so that they could get ran over/ran off the field before the end of the 2nd quarter at the hands of LSU.
Better to have been there and lost than not there at all IMO. Ducking top competition is cowardly.
I agree 100%.
Point being ND belongs nowhere near the playoff/the top 4 of playoff teams/regardless if they lucked into a #4 seed by beating Michigan.
nobody is in OSU/LSU’s class this year. ND is still only a fringe Top10 team though. You’re right about that.
Why does everybody round up when talking about NDs program?
ND is ranked 15th on aggregate by most reputable polls this year. They had a pre-season ranking of 12th. They recruited the 16th ranked class last year and had the 14th ranked 85-man roster in the country coming into the 2019 season.
This is not a "outside the fringe top 10 team" this is a 15th or so ranked team multiple tiers away from the top which has been the case for the large majority of BKs tenure.
IMO, they’re as strong as the teams right around the Top10 currently.
Under what measurement?
ND beat 0 teams with a ranking above 20th this year.
They benefited from an atrociously bad schedule and still almost lost 3-4 games.
This is not a playoff team. This is not a juggernaut on the cusp of greatness. This is not even a "really good" team most years.
This is a low 2nd/high 3rd tier P5 program who has benefited from a tremendous amount of luck over the last two seasons that has manifested in a much stronger W/L record than deserves. And ALL of the underlying metrics show that.
The only ones who don't see this/believe this are delusional ND fans.
In this situation, Michigan would be an 8-4 team ranked between 20-25. That win wouldn't be all that impressive. I don't see why that would get ND in over Oklahoma.
Amen brother. Can't win a NC if your not in the playoff to begin with.
They don't even make the 2nd quarter. The NCAA actually phones the replay booth to buzz the umpire, then says we must start a mercy clock by the first TV timeout.
LSU 77 ND 3
11 minutes to go first quarter.
Your shit is really getting old. Why do you bother pretending to be an Irish fan? Jesus enough mr glass half empty every gdamn day.
Post wasn’t about if ND is belongs, F/P and recruiting rankings nor how’d they fare against LSU. more curious how the selection committee would have viewed ND/OU.. think it would have come down to the 2.
OU beat Baylor twice and Ok St for their only top 25 wins. OU has never won a playoff game and seemingly belongs in the the 6–10 group where they don’t have enough to compete against the top 3.
OU beat Baylor twice and Ok St for their only top 25 wins. OU has never won a playoff game and seemingly belongs in the the 6–10 group where they don’t have enough to compete against the top 3.
"Clearly this wasn’t close and an embarrassment but for hypothetical sake, if ND wins this game- do you see them sneaking into the playoff?"
Based on the 4 who are in -- they would have been very much in the discussion, but in the end, probably would have lost out to Oklahoma. BUT, ND would probably be at #5, at worse #6 -- and playing in a NY 6 game.
