Nice job by the family securing the bag…first playing ND then Oregon for a big deal. Calling him a ”kid” is laughable. ND just avoided a big problem and we’ll see how good he is when playing SEC receivers. Just another year of recruiting fun!
Family values The Bowens have none
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Perhaps, but it’s really easy to sit here and say that the parents failed when you have a willful kid who’s been getting adored and feted over for at least a few years doing childish things. I’m sure that if others were to look at us and “grade” are parenting based on a single observation, well, we wouldn’t like it, nor would we think it was fair.
Let’s see how the class turns out on the field before calling it disappointing.
We've been seeing how these 10-15th ranked classes have been playing out on the field for the last ~13 years.
ND is going to beat the mediocrity in the ACC and the cupcakes on the schedule but be woefully average vs better competition and be woefully behind teams competing for national titles and in the end finish somewhere ranked in the teens, maybe in the back half of the top 10 in years where it all comes together. Its not good enough.
Unbunch your panties and grow up. I root for the kids who choose to attend the University of Notre Dame.
Well if you root for the kids who play for ND why are you not bothered by a kid that lied to his fellow commits and their coaches? Do you not care that ND kids who committed had their important day blemished by a constant news cycle featuring their one time brother who turned out to be Judas?
I am grown up. I root for my ND kids. In every way. You criticize me and assume our commits were not affected by Bowens bs. Get real and get your head out of your butt
Your soul is what you are, not something that you have. There is no such thing as "someone without a soul." Reversing the have/are of body and soul (believing that you are a body and have a soul rather than believing that you have a body and are a soul) is a device of the false personality and the judgment that is its foundation.
The FACT that Bowen clearly was lying to everyone seems to mean nothing to you.
Why is that?
While some here are all over the parents, one should remember that the prisons are full of garbage that had very good parents.
Sometimes there is nothing a parent can do about a BAD SEED.
Now Bowen might not end up in prison; but lying every chance he got and conning everyone he could is not a trend to avoid it.
Sometimes there is nothing a parent can do about a BAD SEED.
Now Bowen might not end up in prison; but lying every chance he got and conning everyone he could is not a trend to avoid it.
Kids lie and coaches lie. That is the recruiting game. Why is that so hard for you and others to understand?
I highly, highly doubt that our recruits were “affected” by Bowen in any real way. These guys have been around the block and know what goes on. At this level, each and every one of them is highly confident in his ability and feels that he is going to be on a successful team with or without someone like Bowen.
“Might not end up in prison…”
Brother, are you reading what you are posting? How can you possibly be this worked up over some kid?
Clearly you act like the all mighty ND fan on this board but you fool no one. You are a joke. A soul lost with no values dismissing lying as an acceptable part of recruiting. It’s not. Not in recruiting. Not in life. The kids we signed are quality individuals from solid families. Not like the Bowens and by your admission, not like you
ski
let it go, get yourself some peace; universal agreement is not attainable, and in any argument, those that can’t be convinced, won’t be convinced. Our only assurance is Jesus loves us.
Once a child turns 18 the parents lose all legal control over the child.
In theory, the transition to adulthood should be relatively seemless and smooth, but when you inject hundreds of thousands @nd possibly millions of dollars into the situation, the dynamic changes significantly, especially if the family isn’t one of means.
In theory, the transition to adulthood should be relatively seemless and smooth, but when you inject hundreds of thousands @nd possibly millions of dollars into the situation, the dynamic changes significantly, especially if the family isn’t one of means.
Unbunch your panties and chill out. You have never written a single positive post. You are a miserable old putz. Go root for Ole Miss...that is a school perfect for you.
“You have never written a single positive post. …” A Kinda irony in that statement; pot calling the kettle…! The difference is P4 always is attacking other forum members.
Now this is flat out nonsense…Ski has written numerous positive posts. Mostly very positive and optimistic at season’s start and/or before pivotal games; and he doesn’t sugar coat his disappointment when we fall short.
Pat
Everything you say is true. No question
It is also true that the adage “parenting is a life sentence”. Is true. You may not have legal grounds to counsel your children past 18 years but that should never stop you from trying
well, what we have now is a generation of selfish parents raising an even more selfish generation! The compounding of the ‘me’ generation! If things continued in this manner, things might get ‘ugly’ and then ‘uglier’. Since most Christians recognizing the current events in light of scripture consider this is the last generation leading to the return of Jesus, the solution to the compounding of the ‘me me me’ problem will be emphatically solved.
When you have primarily every day normal families or families struggling being offered 1 million, 1.5 million, 2 million, $2.5 million dollars, of course it changes things. How are these families being “selfish“ or these kids being “selfish“ when everybody else would do exactly the same thing in their situation as far as getting the money is concerned? Yes, they may act differently, but that’s another story. Wanting to get the most money from fleeting opportunities they could all be gone in a second doesn’t seem like being selfish to me.
football is not the composite of the whole world of existence! broaden your horizons!
Trying and achieving successful results are often worlds apart when dealing with 18 year olds
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