Botelho Back
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Diggs was on sideline for game 1. Not covid.
Botelho is something else. Not covid either
I think Israel statistics are skewed I'm hearing from people with relatives in Israel the people are getting sick and dropping like flies
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What exactly wasnt correct? You said the vaccine does nothing to stop one from getting or spreading the Delta variant and to look at Isreal. Your statement is incorrect. 17% of unvaccinated people account for 65% of the CovID cases in Israel. I said the vaccine is not 100% effective against preventing infection but significantly better than no protection. Again, just look at the math. Here’s the article from the paper in Isreal with some recent stats - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...serious-covid-19-cases-death-delta-1.10208784
Liberal who respects libertarians here. I hope you're open to 2 genuine criticisms to your post:
1. Kids under 12 still can't get vaccinated. I know they're WAY less likely to have a serious case of Covid than adults, but there are rare cases of kids having long-term effects or even dying from the virus. I'll probably be in lock-step with you once my 2 kiddos can get a shot.
2. Health Care workers are exhausted. A friend of mine who is an ER nurse told me he is regularly working 12 hour shifts with no lunch break and no bathroom breaks because his hospital is in permanent crisis mode with so many Covid patients. When you say "If you don't want the vaccine, it's your ass," I can't help but think that it's also your local nurse's ass (or more accurately, their sanity) that is also on the line. These problems will work themselves out in due time, but they are problems.
No, 17% of the unvaccinated are 65% of hospitalization not infections. So again, you'll likely be less sick. What Israel is also finding is the vaccine wanes after only a few months.
My wife's a nurse and they are exhausted because so many nurses have quit or retired. They quit because the endless protocols they have to observe. My wife has grown tired of it and is thinking of quitting.
Hospitals across the country are closing beds due to staffing shortages. 2 large hospital systems in MI just announced they are closing 120 & 180 beds. A hospital in NY is shutting it's maternity ward due to staffing.
Hospitals aren't full of Covid patients, they are full of people who delayed treatment over the last year. Mental health intakes (which requires much lower nurse to patient ratio) have ballooned. COVID is only added to an already stressed hospital system that are losing staff
Valid points.
I don’t completely agree on the first post given that the flu, RSV, and other viruses are far more dangerous to kids and we don’t really even try to prevent the spread of those disease.
point #2 is valid.
I always maintain my distance and wear a mask when people come near me.
And I support your choice. But don't cough in my face either. The vaccine doesn't work for many people.
Jordan Borthello has been described as a High energy Super positive young man ! He is a BEAST and will dominate ! He will get two sacks and Foskey will get two strip sacks !
I would tell your friend to go take 15 minutes off to eat and go to the bathroom whenever he wants. And the hospital won't allow that tell him to find a different location. I worked in emergency room in the military 16 on 8 off I did that for an entire month, and I sucked it up. I am Empathetic, but it's the choice of the profession that your friend made
No bathroom breaks? Respectfully, that’s just not true.
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t believe that a job doesn’t allow for bathroom breaks.
He is not being forced to skip bathroom breaks. He and his colleagues are often choosing to do so to help each other out. And to shabak's point, he is indeed thinking of quitting or finding a different position, which gets to the problem that java65 noted about worker shortages. Getting the shot has at least a small potential to ensure that someone doesn't contribute to that craziness. Bodi has the right to choose not to get vaccinated. I have the right to think he's being really selfish by doing so.
And I have the right to think you are silly for thinking hes selfish. And on and on it goes
It's a strong inference that the vaccine limits the chances of serious Covid complications.
but it is still an inference. You would have to control for whether the unvaccinated are fatter and otherwise less healthy than the poked.
The unvaccinated are selfish and are a cause of the disease spreading . Vaccinated folks only have less than 5 percent chance of breakthrough infection and .00001 percent of dying . Non vaccinated people are stupid people plain and simple .
Vaccinated people can spread Covid also. That is why they are told to wear masks.
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The vaccine works against getting infected from the delta variant. See info from CDC -https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
Here’s data about the effectiveness of Pfizer and Moderna before and during delta variant -https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e3.htm
I don't think "selfish" is quite the word. It is indeed selfish, but I think selfish is more for like, I don't care what anyone wants to watch, I'm going to watch the ND game, and that's how it going to be. Deal with it.
This is just a little bit deeper and darker than that.
Wait.... you’re still talking about this? I guess you can’t read. So my 11 days and the guy in the hospital next to me must be outliers in that 5 patient I guess.
I didn't see Botelho play a single down on defense today. He played on the kick coverage team, so there shouldn't be an academic or other disciplinary issue this is keeping him off the field. Something else must be going on with him and the coaching staff. Wonder what it is. I've been wanting to see what he can do on the field.
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If you’re vaccinated, then why do you care if someone isn’t?
I don’t. That was the entire point of my long thread. It should be a choice. Thanks for the question.
LIberty, in case you've forgotten, is a souI's right to breathe. And when it cannot take a long breath, laws are girded too tight. - Harry Ward Beecher
I would say his biggest issue right now is that he plays the same position as Foskey. MTA playing the other DE is playing great too. Would be good to see some rotation on the line to keep them fresh, but neither of them looked gassed in the 4th this week.
