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jcswoopnh said:
Driskell's site offers some solid info. Unfortunately, the message board has gotten really bad imho. The dozen or so solid people posting there have been overwhelmed by low football IQ, effeminate posters'.
Throw in a few others that have a cult level worship towards BD, make it almost unreadable. It's too bad ad I used to really enjoy it IB
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I would agree. Driskell has a lot of good stuff to share. But the message board is just good, it's not great.

The message board here is better.
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Today's Orange Bowl press conference

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Drinking The Green Koolaid said:
I would have loved to hear Marcus Freeman respond to the question about being in a conference as follows:

"At one time Notre Dame wanted badly to join a conference. For those that know college football history, many years ago Knute Rockne attempted on multiple occasions to have Notre Dame join the Big 10. But Fielding Yost, the athletic director of one of the conference's blue blood programs, the University of Michigan, blocked Notre Dame's admission into the conference and then conspired with other ADs to blackball Notre Dame from playing other teams in the conference. And why did Yost do that? Because he was was motivated by anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant bigotry and was jealous of Rockne's success with Notre Dame's fledging football program. Having been denied entry into the Big 10, Notre Dame was forced to travel nationally, scheduling games with Army and USC, among others. And so Yost's conniving bigotry ended up badly for the Big 10, because Notre Dame's independence allowed it to become a national brand. There we sit today. And now Coach Franklin wants us to just toss that all that history aside and join a conference? Well, no thank you, we like where we are at."

But of course, Marcus has too much class to do that.

I suppose most ND fans here are aware of this history, but if you want to do a deeper dive, read Murray Sperber's Shake Down the Thunder or John Kyrk's Natural Enemies.

All that said, I suspect the day will come, probably soon, when Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference.
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No one would ever say anything like that. They'd have way, way, way too much discretion and good sense. Not because the rest of the outside world is all arrayed against ND, and their forces have SB completely surrounded. But rather because, are you serious that you would ever make a self-pitying speech like that? That would be shocking if anyone ever did. Ned Yost. I know that's not his name but that's what I call him now. Ned. If it weren't for old Neddy, ND would be in the Big Ten right now! But the man was a bigot, and he had it in for the papists. Again, it would be shocking if an official representative of ND ever said such a thing. And so revealing.

Actually that would be effin' awesome if MF gave a thoughtful, measured reply carefully explaining to a stunned media ND's well-worn tale of woe, and why they will never join a conference, and certainly not the Big Ten. On account of this institutional grudge. The Catholic Church, if there's any institution in this crazy world that is just so weak and vulnerable and harried. The Catholic Church, home of the very moral concept of forgiveness. Their entire spiritual raison d'être, the sine qua non, and it will be a cold day in hell before America's most famous catholic institution ever forgives anyone. Indeed they pride themselves and define themselves on this eternal defiance of their very essence. I guess he who is without sin can cast the first stone?
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Drinking The Green Koolaid
I would have loved to hear Marcus Freeman respond to the question about being in a conference as follows:

"At one time Notre Dame wanted badly to join a conference. For those that know college football history, many years ago Knute Rockne attempted on multiple occasions to have Notre Dame join the Big 10. But Fielding Yost, the athletic director of one of the conference's blue blood programs, the University of Michigan, blocked Notre Dame's admission into the conference and then conspired with other ADs to blackball Notre Dame from playing other teams in the conference. And why did Yost do that? Because he was was motivated by anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant bigotry and was jealous of Rockne's success with Notre Dame's fledging football program. Having been denied entry into the Big 10, Notre Dame was forced to travel nationally, scheduling games with Army and USC, among others. And so Yost's conniving bigotry ended up badly for the Big 10, because Notre Dame's independence allowed it to become a national brand. There we sit today. And now Coach Franklin wants us to just toss that all that history aside and join a conference? Well, no thank you, we like where we are at."

But of course, Marcus has too much class to do that.

I suppose most ND fans here are aware of this history, but if you want to do a deeper dive, read Murray Sperber's Shake Down the Thunder or John Kyrk's Natural Enemies.

All that said, I suspect the day will come, probably soon, when Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference.
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savvyandsassier
Being in a conference is so entirely an institutional and organizational norm, that regardless of what a putz JF is, the notion that all teams should be in a conference, so as to facilitate a better playoff for instance, or for purposes of more uniform scheduling or whatever it is, is definitely not outrageous. Having one program hold out as a so-called 'independent' to the possible detriment of the sport, or at least the playoff, is a nuisance, it just is. As long as we're going to have at large bids then ND can hang on as an independent, but the greater good of CFB counts for something. ND doesn't have to do anything it doesn't want to, but the rest of CFB is certainly entitled to be annoyed, if ND is screwing everything up. Which I don't think they are, but it might not last that way forever, ie a super league, or something akin to that.
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FightingIrish44 said:
Clearly his comments were directed at Uconn.
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It's funny you should mention UConn, because I think they would end up in Penn State's conference if Franklin got what he's asking for. I mean, if teams are forced to join conferences then some governing body would need choose who goes where. And that governing body would base it on geography, right? So Mr. Franklin, here's your new 16-team conference based on your wishes:

BC
UMass
UConn
Syracuse
Buffalo
Army
Rutgers
Temple
Maryland
Navy
James Madison
West Virginia
Penn State
Pitt
Kent St.
Akron
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