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Ole Miss & Georgia

the computers love the SEC and I don't think they are biased.


I don't know the specific statistical models, but I do know ELO type models, like the ones used in chess or even ranking soccer nations.

Wins against higher ranked teams are weighted more heavily.

So if SEC teams start off higher ranked, sure, the winners tend to stay higher ranked.

Again, I'm just roughly considering how ELO models might bias the SEC in early rankings.

Ranked when you played? Or seasons end?

This means Navy is a quality top 25 win.

Which I would disagree with. It wasn’t then. It isn’t now.
So when an undefeated team ranked # 2 loses to Notre Dame in game three of the season and their spectacular QB has a season ending injury on the last play of the game and they lose three more games, and end up ranked in the 40s at the end of the season, you think that our SOS should be based on the end of season rankings

David Pollack Names College Football Team Outside the Top Five That Can Win it All


I can't say Pollack is wrong.

If we are forced to pass and play in a scoring fest we're in trouble.

If we can just move the sticks and keep a lead we're a tough out.

If #2 gets some late season chemistry with RL we have a decent shot

Ranked when you played? Or seasons end?

Frankly I agree. I watch a lot of CFB, and 6 seems a tad generous to me as well. I would go 8-9. That said, they’ll certainly get their shot to go as far as they can.
Of course you think ND at #6 (really #8 with the auto bids) is generous because you're a USC troll and all you do is sh!tpost about ND on this board. It's a quite sad hobby you have & disturbing that a middle aged man like yourself indulges in it as frequently as you do. Get a better life sport.

Northern Illinois

Notre Dame has been mentioned about 20 times the last three weeks in the NIU games.

@savvyandsassier I thought NIU played very well in that game. They were the better team. Like the 95 yard TD pass. That was a great job by the QB delivering a perfect pass with Mills barreling down on him. Got everybody blocked up in the run game. The QB made other good throws. High level football IMO. They played good defense too.
I don't know, I"m sure they did play well, for them. I just mean they didn't seem that formidable. This isn't some badass team that's going to tear up the MAC, and challenge for the G5 playoff spot or anything like that. The whole game was slow and labored, and even though we have a great defense, they were unthreatening on offense, and just slow and plodding overall. And sure enough, they got their little FG at the end to pull ahead and get the win. Good for them.

Bottom line, I suppose it was a letdown after the offseason-long buildup to the big game at Kyle Field. And our offense was finding itself, so it was just one of those things. And NIU stepped up. But to our great credit, we totally bounced back, took away the right lesson, and now pretty much are steamrolling our way into the playoff, with two legit opponents remaining, but we should be alright, we'll handle them. And I think it's possible to think of it as at least both a blessing and a curse. Obviously you don't want to lose to MAC teams, but we got our act together, and if MF really has been invoking it, what better way to totally motivate you for the rest of the season. So at the end of the day I'll take it. This has been a very good season. The games aren't competitive, and we are fairly dominant. I honestly think we could be a dark horse in the playoff. Knock on wood.

Army Prediction Thread

Trying to get some more action on it. There’s like three people that predict. Plus I wanted to throw out some thoughts.

What would you predict?

I’m not betting but I’d feel pretty good giving the 14.
Army has little real CFB talent. But if they don’t turn the football over like Navy did, I see something like 34-13 ND.

Army Prediction Thread

ND 42
Army 17

ND shouldn’t have any problem moving the ball. Passing or running. I vote for mostly running while going up tempo to start the game. Short passing underneath.

I just don’t know what to make of the defense this week. I could see the D shutting Army down completely or getting pretty thoroughly run on. I don’t envy preparing for this offense. There’s plenty to learn from the Navy game. Hopefully the coaches have some sort of backup plan in case their base defense isn’t working.
ND is a 14 point favorite

Army Prediction Thread

ND 42
Army 17

ND shouldn’t have any problem moving the ball. Passing or running. I vote for mostly running while going up tempo to start the game. Short passing underneath.

I just don’t know what to make of the defense this week. I could see the D shutting Army down completely or getting pretty thoroughly run on. I don’t envy preparing for this offense. There’s plenty to learn from the Navy game. Hopefully the coaches have some sort of backup plan in case their base defense isn’t working.

This team

The game shouldn't be on Riley Leonard's shoulders. He should have been yanked against NIU mid second half. At least until ND regained a comfortable lead. We have back up quarterbacks who can do the job if Leonard isn't getting it done. I don't know why Leonard played the entire game against NIU when it was clear another quarterback could be used to some extent to change the trajectory of the game. If Leonard comes out flat at any point forward.....Freeman has to be prepared to adapt.
You could indeed make the argument that Riley Leonard had zero business playing the 2H against NIU. The dude was hurting.

Next Year's Offensive Line is going to be good!

LT Jagusah/Black
LG Schrauth/Augustine
C Craig/Pendleton or Knapp?
RG Knapp/Pendleton
RT Wagner/Lambert

Thought I'd take a stab at the two deep. I wonder if Rocco and Coogan come back. Hope so. Hell, Pendleton was on The Athletic's mid-season Freshman all-American team! A lot of NFL level talent in this two-deep!

What are you guys thinking will be the two deep?

Dont forget about G. Lambert and Black coming in.

I didn't. That two deep looks spot on.

@stu4don so why would I reply to your post & sjb75 answer for you? Your math aint mathin sport.

This team

Yep, biggest question is what happens when a game is put on Leonard's shoulders? One thing about Love & Price is they both are very able pass catchers. So if an opposing defense loaded the box, I think there are some creative ways to use both of them in the passing game.
The game shouldn't be on Riley Leonard's shoulders. He should have been yanked against NIU mid second half. At least until ND regained a comfortable lead. We have back up quarterbacks who can do the job if Leonard isn't getting it done. I don't know why Leonard played the entire game against NIU when it was clear another quarterback could be used to some extent to change the trajectory of the game. If Leonard comes out flat at any point forward.....Freeman has to be prepared to adapt.
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