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Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

I was there and clearly you were not.
and you clearly had a personal beef with Clausen

which with your history is not surprising

so to save time I am just going to say your post was pretty much total crap of someone who is small, petty and usually wrong
Case in effin' point. You're like a Clausen cultist. No idea why, only reason I can think of you is desperately want to live vicariously, and forever bathe in all the glorious hype of this once in a lifetime player, when he was so manifestly anything but. There's almost something profound about dead-end ND fans that still pine for Jimmy Clausen and dutifully carry his banner, as the great lost hope that was never able to fulfill his rightful destiny. All part of ND's illustrious football lore I suppose....

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

Everyone knew 2007 was going to be a bad year; Ty's last two classes were total garbage and weis had started to repair it somewhat but there simply was a huge loss of talent after 2006
now a certain poster here whines and cries about how it was not that bad but having to watch it every game it was.
The 2007 team was almost certainly going to take a hit because of the recruiting. It probably wouldn’t have been as bad with a better coach, but it wasn’t Weis’ fault that he had two bare recruiting classes.

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

You seem to have as much of an issue with all of the non-football field stuff surrounding Clausen than his actual performance on game day.

He was drafted in the 2nd round and played in the NFL for six years. Clausen helped give Weis a chance at seeing year six. That was Weis’ fault he didn’t get it.
This is what I'm talking about. The guy was a laughingstock, he made ND a laughingstock, and very much overrated in terms of pure ability. He didn't make it in the NFL because he's not that good. He's overcoached, not naturally talented, and has stiff, brittle technique and can't improvise or throw off platform because he's mainly a product of exhaustive coaching and practice. To say nothing of his total lack of any kind of personal appeal or natural leadership. Though he does throw a nice deep ball when he get all his technique and mechanics perfect.

And yet ND fans continue to mourn and admire him. While Ian Book is an afterthought and is scoffed at, even though Book, most definitely >>> Jimmy Clausen.

Did we have something to do with Wake Forest cancelling on Ole Miss?

One of the problems. The ACC plays instate games for everyone except Miami Pitt Syracuse and BC I think. So it would have to be one of those. 3 of which are not warm. The other 3 more than likely won't be Championship level teams. Good teams? Possibly but 8-4 9-3 ish.And they might not want that tough of a game going into Championship weekend for Miami. why give Miami a home field advantage every other year? Make them come up to ND then the other years. ACC won't do that. Miami could be getting reay to return to their old winning ways. Remember this was a rivalry when they were an independent as well. This is the problem ND is beginning to face. The Super Leagues have enough quality games. They don't need ND. ACC still does but they are not going to be at a scheduling disadvantage to help ND. And USC absolutely is going to evaluate the games going forward. As they are now travelling East 4-5 times per season.

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

Yeah, I guess. Is that damning with faint praise? We avoided 2-10, and with JC around and his heralded junior season we managed to hit the six win mark? I think it might be. Didn't we lose the last four games, inexplicably, going from a possible New Year's Day bowl to the start of the BK era, which of course was a great boon to ND, in the space of a month? With JC at the helm, ready to really make his mark at ND and get us back into the top tier?

I would consider the JC years at ND a nearly unmitigated disaster. So while he made some very pretty throws, his matriculation was definitely a huge net negative for ND, other than it led to the BK era.
more of the same drivel from a poster notorious for it

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

Definitely the coach as always. But the JC years were his years. There's never been any other hype like that. There's never been a team and an offense more blatantly handed off to a QB to do as he wishes than Weis and his prize protege JC, even including an almost slightly bizarre spectacle involving Demetrius Jones' nominal ascent to the starting QB, post Brady Quinn, and the new fangled offense Weis with some fanfare was going to unleash, which lasted approximately three quarters and it was gone. And then not much more inauspiciously could the JC years begin with his first start vs Michigan, featuring an infamous 4-defender tandem sack that I'm sure you can watch on YouTube. And then it was basically downhill from there.

And we did have some elite skill position players. And respectable talent all around, it wasn't some Purdue level roster, that'a a canard of JC apologists. So of course the buck stops with the HC. But I'd be much more inclined to say JC destroyed Weis and not anything resembling the other way around. It was almost like a Shakespearean fall from grace for Weis, dubiously putting all his fortunes in JC's goofy-looking, spoiled rich kid's basket. And then seeing his career suddenly crumble, after getting off to a very bright start, including a huge contract extension. And the rest is history.
This is such a pile of crap
you are now in Chase His Balls territory

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

You seem to have as much of an issue with all of the non-football field stuff surrounding Clausen than his actual performance on game day.

He was drafted in the 2nd round and played in the NFL for six years. Clausen helped give Weis a chance at seeing year six. That was Weis’ fault he didn’t get it.
he is a small petty person who is clearly jealous of Clausen

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

Yeah, well.... he sucked. ND's rosters were not that shitty when he was there, that's way more than a myth. He had a legit QB guru who handpicked him in Weis Sr., and nurtured and coddled him. And while he had a big junior year and flashed his 'arm talent' quite a bit, mainly on slant routes that apparently made him such a wunderkind. And then went to the NFL and absolutely did not make it at all. After being a three year college starter with the offense revolving around him. And as a 2nd round pick someone who definitely had his chance to impress and consistently didn't.

And he was about as uncharismatic and naturally not likable as you could possibly be. So much so that it actually hurt his NFL career. And yet ND fans still cling to him as the misunderstood and underrated golden boy of the modern era for ND, who was felt to have been robbed somehow, in some unspecified way from achieving his true greatness, when the exact opposite would be true and he enjoyed every last possible advantage and opportunity. To the point that he appeared to have been so coddled and so overly nurtured and catered to, vaguely reminiscent of Todd Marinovich only from a totally rich family, that it probably stunted his development. In fact it almost certainly did.

But it's true that he has a pretty nice highlight reel. And a terrible W/L record.
I was there and clearly you were not.
and you clearly had a personal beef with Clausen

which with your history is not surprising

so to save time I am just going to say your post was pretty much total crap of someone who is small, petty and usually wrong

Did we have something to do with Wake Forest cancelling on Ole Miss?

"Is it for certain ND won't play Stanford next year? "

As of right now, ND has 11 games on the schedule, and Stanford is not one of them. Also, the 5 ACC teams do not have dates attached to them yet either. Currently, as it sits, ND opens 9.13.2025 at home vs Texas A&M
The 12th could very well end up being Stanford, but a renewal of the ongoing series beyond 2024 has yet to be announced. The hold up could be clarification on whether or not the ACC will count Stanford games toward meeting Notre Dame's schedule agreement with the conference.
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He’s playing at a very high level, which makes my frustration with Leonard’s passing that much greater. That back shoulder catch on our game winning drive against Texas A&M was absolutely elite. I’ve been really impressed with every aspect of Beaux’s game.
Yep, he re committed himself and nd isn’t doing much to help him stats wise… game film shows how open he’s been at times and how good he’s blocking

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

Definitely the coach as always. But the JC years were his years. There's never been any other hype like that. There's never been a team and an offense more blatantly handed off to a QB to do as he wishes than Weis and his prize protege JC, even including an almost slightly bizarre spectacle involving Demetrius Jones' nominal ascent to the starting QB, post Brady Quinn, and the new fangled offense Weis with some fanfare was going to unleash, which lasted approximately three quarters and it was gone. And then not much more inauspiciously could the JC years begin with his first start vs Michigan, featuring an infamous 4-defender tandem sack that I'm sure you can watch on YouTube. And then it was basically downhill from there.

And we did have some elite skill position players. And respectable talent all around, it wasn't some Purdue level roster, that'a a canard of JC apologists. So of course the buck stops with the HC. But I'd be much more inclined to say JC destroyed Weis and not anything resembling the other way around. It was almost like a Shakespearean fall from grace for Weis, dubiously putting all his fortunes in JC's goofy-looking, spoiled rich kid's basket. And then seeing his career suddenly crumble, after getting off to a very bright start, including a huge contract extension. And the rest is history.
You seem to have as much of an issue with all of the non-football field stuff surrounding Clausen than his actual performance on game day.

He was drafted in the 2nd round and played in the NFL for six years. Clausen helped give Weis a chance at seeing year six. That was Weis’ fault he didn’t get it.

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

The JC years were a disaster. Is that primary the fault of Clausen or his coach?

3700 yards. 28 TD and 4 INT. One of those INT’s hit Floyd in the back as he was blocking. That’s in only 12 games. Check the box scores of the 2009 season.

It was the defense that mostly lost the games. ND lost 23-21 against Navy while Clausen threw for 450 yards and a completion percentage of 72.5. 37/51 passing. I think he did his job.

Now you put Clausen in an Alabama uniform and suddenly he wins 12-14 games.
Definitely the coach as always. But the JC years were his years. There's never been any other hype like that. There's never been a team and an offense more blatantly handed off to a QB to do as he wishes than Weis and his prize protege JC, even including an almost slightly bizarre spectacle involving Demetrius Jones' nominal ascent to the starting QB, post Brady Quinn, and the new fangled offense Weis with some fanfare was going to unleash, which lasted approximately three quarters and it was gone. And then not much more inauspiciously could the JC years begin with his first start vs Michigan, featuring an infamous 4-defender tandem sack that I'm sure you can watch on YouTube. And then it was basically downhill from there.

And we did have some elite skill position players. And respectable talent all around, it wasn't some Purdue level roster, that'a a canard of JC apologists. So of course the buck stops with the HC. But I'd be much more inclined to say JC destroyed Weis and not anything resembling the other way around. It was almost like a Shakespearean fall from grace for Weis, dubiously putting all his fortunes in JC's goofy-looking, spoiled rich kid's basket. And then seeing his career suddenly crumble, after getting off to a very bright start, including a huge contract extension. And the rest is history.

Did we have something to do with Wake Forest cancelling on Ole Miss?

Is it for certain ND won't play Stanford next year? I don't see why they can't. Neither ND or Stanford has a finalized game for the last week of season next year. I can't see why the ACC would be opposed to it.
"Is it for certain ND won't play Stanford next year? "

As of right now, ND has 11 games on the schedule, and Stanford is not one of them. Also, the 5 ACC teams do not have dates attached to them yet either. Currently, as it sits, ND opens 9.13.2025 at home vs Texas A&M

Isn’t it pretty self explanatory

The JC years were a disaster. Is that primary the fault of Clausen or his coach?

3700 yards. 28 TD and 4 INT. One of those INT’s hit Floyd in the back as he was blocking. That’s in only 12 games. Check the box scores of the 2009 season.

It was the defense that mostly lost the games. ND lost 23-21 against Navy while Clausen threw for 450 yards and a completion percentage of 72.5. 37/51 passing. I think he did his job.

Now you put Clausen in an Alabama uniform and suddenly he wins 12-14 games.
I agree with you but he has to put up more than 21 points against Navy. Stats are great but need more than 21
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